michaelathome

IMO,

Wider, longer and lower. They worked on wider but left it there.

My thoughts would be:

- Twin turbo 5.4 or a TT 5.0 optional, technology/pricing hadn't caught up for the turbochargers and cooling.
- Larger brakes.
- Auto (DSG) would be a must again, paddles would be obvious instead of a manual with a manual optional.

Porsche gave up on the 928 long before any of those options even came into play. They had a good 12 year run before numbers dropped off in sales. Porsche quit for a reason, the market in that niche dried up.

The 911 has been a 50 year run. Singer picked classic looks the longer chassis, wider stance and the higher HP car to build. The 928 had never gotten any of the options that Singer is able to work with to make an excellent mix.


Michael

The Fixer

Great thoughts Michael,

I always wake up thinking about a host of different things. The "Singer" 928 one of the more entertaining thoughts..

I doubt i will get a response MJ, but my thought was that as an Industrial Designer he may want a new challenge or a way to increase sales.

Or he may want to do something provocative and build just one for giggles. That would be great press for the model if it happened. But as with Porsche,
he couldn't build a Singer 928 that was better than his Singer 911, but that would be easy to do i have found in my very controlled case.

There are so many rumors swirling about the return of the 928 in some form (two door Pananmera) if this happened then maybe but now i highly doubt he'd have real interest. And they would probably need to be priced at over $120,000. But i think because of the Singer cachet, he may be able to get that.

Who would think he could sell a 964 911 for well over $300,000 when i can buy one for $30,000 tomorrow. Is the singer $300,000
better than a well worn 964 RSA?

So one really never knows when people with stupid money are concerned.


I've recently started a new business which focuses on a very BIG problem and need in the housing industry at this moment in time.
I'm "fixing" this specific problem on a 15 year old 'McMansion' right now and have more lined up to be repaired after i'm done.

When i have the extra money in place,

maybe (we) should build The "Finger" 928 for all the 928 bashers lol.

Black Sea RD

I believe one of the main problems is believing this can be done on the cheap.

The Singer 911 is well north of $350K with most over $500K. The high cost is part of the allure, everyone knows that a Singer 911 is costly, so if you have one you must be rich/special.

To make a 928 worthy of this kind of consideration will cost at least as much as a top drawer Singer 911, with creature comforts and flawless, seamless execution throughout the whole of the car.

545svk

To do a car like we dream of will most likely be like building a minimalist house. Every detail will have to be perfect and that take skill and time. Two expensive commodities.

The fact that very few people know what a 928 is, and only a few of those will recognize and appreciate what went into building "the ultimate" is appealing to me.

As has been pointed out previously, there are lots of status cars in the $ 250 - 500 k range that other road users will recognize, if that is what you want.

I'll spend my weekend dreaming when I wash my s4. Enjoy 4 July.

stuartbrs

If it takes 4000 hours to build a Singer, as Rob has said many times.. its easy to see where the money is. Wages, contractors, day to day running costs, small market, and the best of the best materials.. I think its amazing they can build that car for "as little as low $300,000". And a 911 is a lawn mower compared to a 928.. I just don't think it could be done or would even be worth trying it.

The Fixer

I enjoyed mine today, have a great holiday.

I don't believe for a second that Singer 911s take 4000 work hours to complete.

That is 2 years.

The first one probably took more than that to get the details right, the rest I would think take less and less time.

The 928 is a very easy car to take apart and paint.
I found my 911 to be the same.

I took mine apart alone and painted it twice in 1 year (never having owned one and being a hobbyist)
along with working and being a very hands on Dad and Husband (wink wink).

No way 4000 hours with a dedicated team. I'll never believe it. Probably does take that long to sell one though.

Have a great Holiday fellow dreamers.

stuartbrs

I`m pretty sure he doesn't mean 4000 concurrent hours.. it would be 4000 man hours total, which would seem about right. The body work alone would take many many hours, just bonding all that carbon on, paint prep, polishing... how many hours would it take to trim the interior? Build the engine, assemble the car.. and you have to pay all those contractors.. also, you have to make it repeatable, and profitable. Sorry, I don't think its fair to compare a home restoration (as good as your is) to something like a Singer style build. I`m doing a nut and bolt resto on a 66 911 racecar, and it doesn't have an interior.. and its taking 100`s of hours (yes, I`m a slow worker )

uraniummetallurgist

Check out the 904 Redo by GWA Auto! Singer-like detail but with a more modern interpretation.

http://www.gwa-tuning.com/p_porsche_904.html

Bet they could do something interesting with a 928!

All the best,

Je

The Fixer

Now this i like. Thanks for posting Je!

904 is a favorite.

whiteNSXs

Looks are solely subjective and not debatable. More power to you if you think the Aston is better looking. Was Jane Russell more beautiful than Marilyn Monroe? Your pick or anyone's pick. However, this is totally different from the delusional claims that the 928 still performs as well as the modern super GTs. A claim that is still perpetuated by a couple of Rennlisters but is baseless and ludicrous.
Steve

Rob Edwards

I watched a Ferrari F12 go from 0 to 1XX mph in about 7 seconds here in the OC today. As much as I love 928s, there isn't (nor will there ever be) a 928 on the planet that could have stayed anywhere near that F12- no way.

The view from my mighty minivan:

545svk

Same as with your observation about looks. It is not absolute. Yes, my friend's Masarati will blow my 928 into the weeds. I still don't want his car and he doesn't want mine.

I love spending a weekend fidling with my s4. Friend with 928 gt doesn't know how to check the oil.

We are friends and enjoy our cars.

This to me is the joy of cars. My $ ×××× 928 is very different from someone elses, while no 3 buy something else, or a boat.

Enjoy the drive

M. Requin

You have a great one, too, Matt!

tv

and that guy couldn't stay with me on my 2-wheeler, but that's not really the point of the thread or cars anyway. If my car was done up the way I listed it would look better outside, just as nice inside and be just as enjoyable to ride in. The one area it could not match would be the perceived rolling bank account that the F12 represents to most people. (my choice for a car that a nicely redone 928 could not match would be the P1) https://www.flickr.com/photos/mclare...49373/sizes/k/

stuartbrs

No... the point is.. Singer 928? um no.. never, ever, ever would that be worthwhile... hmmm, Singer 944/924... maybe, especially a 951 that is proven to be faster than a Veyron... but a Singer 928.. forget it.. no point.. and I LOVE 928`s..