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Old 09-10-2014, 12:36 PM
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Pretty parts! Good tip on the acid-wash for stripping the old plating off.

My original recommendation still stands though-- get a protective clear-coat layer over the yellow zinc. The chromate layer, the 'yellow' zinc, and the base zinc layer itself, are quickly turned to gray (less than a year) in anything short of that perfect dry climate. These plating layers are sacrificial by design, reacting with contaminants so that the base steel part does not.
Old 09-10-2014, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by dr bob
My original recommendation still stands though-- get a protective clear-coat layer over the yellow zinc. The chromate layer, the 'yellow' zinc, and the base zinc layer itself, are quickly turned to gray (less than a year) in anything short of that perfect dry climate.
I did order a couple of cans of 2K high-temp gloss clear for some aluminum parts that I am glass beading. That is a two-part industrial finish that is supposedly very durable.

The original yellow zinc held up pretty well for its age so I will leave the newly yellow zinc plated parts as they are.
Old 08-01-2015, 02:58 PM
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I took a bit of a field trip with about 130 lbs of pieces to Burbank plating, to see whether they would in fact be willing to do real yellow cad plating for a civilian who just shows up on their doorstep. Turns out the answer is yes- They did it in two batches, all the small pieces get barrel plated, and all the bigger ones get hung on a hook- the finish ended up being ever so slightly less 'gold' on the hardware, and a bit less shiny than than the hose ends and fuel rails. Total cost was $300, for whatever that's worth. Turnaround time was 10 days.

90 lbs of hardware, unsorted.



6 hours (...) later:



Patient wife:



Here's a natural light shot showing the diff between yellow cad (left) and yellow zinc (right). I think the cad is going to look a whole lot closer to the mildly faded pale gold matte patina that one sees on original low mileage cars. There's still too much chromate variation of the surface but I think that will fade a bit with a couple of heat cycles.



Pretty suspension bits for an early car:

Old 08-01-2015, 06:41 PM
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Good result for an OCD-saturday! I'm a bit surprised cad plating is still legal in Californa.
Old 08-01-2015, 07:07 PM
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I was too, but Burbank plating has been there more than 40 years, so they must be grandfathered in. I was pleasantly surprised that they were willing to do it, figured I'd need some sort of document stating I was building an SR-71 replica or something, but no.
Old 08-01-2015, 07:37 PM
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Nice!

Love to see shinny parts like that.

Rob, what your wife thinks about laying down all these parts everywhere on kitchen counters?
Old 08-01-2015, 07:39 PM
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Who gives a ****?

She's very patient with it, though it's all still sitting there as I had a bunch of stuff to do in the office today. At least she knows exactly where I am on Friday night.....
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She's probably away for the weekend
Old 08-01-2015, 08:21 PM
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None of the commercial platers in my area will touch any lot that small. Nice looking stuff, i am most jealous.
Old 08-01-2015, 08:25 PM
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Their minimum batch is $200, I 'm sure people mail them stuff all the time. No downside to calling them.
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im shocked you have to sorted and organized the boxes of shiny parts behind Gregs work benches... :-)
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And all of the cupcake tins of shiny bits, organized in order of their appearance on the PET pages? Where do you think I learned my 928 OCD from?
Old 08-02-2015, 03:31 AM
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Hi Rob - Just curious if you applied a clearcoat to your parts(?) I did when I did my top-end refresh a couple months ago and I noticed it kinda washed out the "bling". I'm more than okay with that--especially if it helps it last. Just curious if you did/noticed the same thing or if it was just a chem reaction specific to the plating kit I used. You can kind of see what I mean in these pictures.
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Here in Tasmania there is nowhere that does quality Zinc plating. I sent some stuff up to a place in the North of the state and it came back and I was deeply unhappy with the finish.

I have used the Janes kit with good results on my 911 race car build.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...ml#post8207933

I also tried some zinc plating by using a cheap bath of Vinegar and Epson salts and got great results.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...ml#post8568578

The next car I build though, i think I would like to try Nickel Plating.
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Originally Posted by Rob Edwards
And all of the cupcake tins of shiny bits, organized in order of their appearance on the PET pages? Where do you think I learned my 928 OCD from?
he he he.... i know right!

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