whatudrivin

Well I started working on getting the car back together this weekend. Got the parts I ordered from Roger on Saturday and started working on it later in the day on Sunday. I did get the fuel rails rebuilt Saturday night. Talk about a pain in the *** to do w/o a dremel. I used a small pair of dykes to cut the old lines off. My hand is still sore from doing that. But all is done and they look good now.

What took most of the time I had Sunday was cleaning 30 year old gaskets off the intake plenums and the heads. Got them pretty darn clean now and vacuumed the top of my motor to remove a lot of the left over hood liner and just general nastiness that was there. It looks a bit better now.

I replaced the 2 fuel lines that feed my fuel rails and just need to replace the 2 lines that some up by the passenger side head. Once that is done I should be able to put everything back together. Once the front part is back together I will install the new fuel pump and check for leaks. Still need to take a look into my fuel tank and see how bad it is. Hopefully not too bad.

whatudrivin

Now I do have a question. There are 2 hoses that I need help tracking where they go. The first is a 'T' connector that broke. where all does this go? I can see one part of it going to the throttle body and the others I'm not sure of where they go. The 2nd one appears to be a water overflow line. I have a line going to the fill tank on the passenger side that is disconnected and will leak fluid when any main water line is squeezed. I'm assuming it goes here.

Mike LaBranche

this may help...

Ethre

Be careful when you replace those injectors - it really takes four hands (one per injector) to align them with the wholes so that you do not knock the pintle caps.

You should also consider replacing those injector O-rings. Individually they are a bit expensive, but you can purchase sets of four (8 O-rings, 4 top and 4 bottom) for ~$2 per set at Autozone. I don't recall the part number off the top of my head, but I will see if I can find it later.

whatudrivin

#45 in the picture looks like it is the coolant hose, #2 in my picture. But the other hose in questions with the "Y" connector appears to be an air/vacuum hose. I don't think it is a water hose.

Ethre, I ordered the fuel line replacement kit from Roger and it included the seals for the injectors and the rubber rings that are under the mounting brackets. So the have been replaced. I just wish I had the money to send them out to be serviced. But for now the goal is to make sure she runs before pumping money into her.

Also there was fuel in some of the lines that I was working with. This is a good sign in my eyes because it tells me the fuel hasn't solidified in the line with some nasty goo-like crap. I will flush the lines out before actually trying to start the car and run fuel through the injectors. I want to minimize the chance of clogging the injectors.

Ethre

#45 is a coolant hose - it runs to the side of the engine bay where it joins 44 and 46.
#47 is actually a metal T piece if I recall correctly. That should be where your #2 runs (hose #45)
I don't know where your #1 is supposed to go. I'll take a look at my engine bay tommorrow morning and see if I can locate it.

You're missing your fuel pressure damper up front by the way. Did you pull it off with the fuel rails?

Good to know those O-rings are new. I couldn't tell by the pictures.

whatudrivin

Yea, I took the picture with the camera on my phone so they aren't the best of quality. But I looked on my lunch today and I see the T where the lines connect and that is where the #2 that I circled goes. Mine is plugged with a spark plug....... Idiot repairs. Makes me wonder what else was done half-assed on this car. Hopefully not much and this was just supposed to be a temporary fix.

And yes I took everything off. Well everything relating to fuel. And pretty much anything else that was in my way when I took the intake off. I was originally going to pull the motor but decided not to. Going to try and just get it running now. Maybe after fluids and these 2 fuel lines replaced I will be able to drive it. At least that is what I am hoping. I need to get a dremel from my grandma to get those fuel lines off. I tried on my lunch today to get them apart and was unable to.

whatudrivin

Just installed the final fuel hoses in the engine bay. I did end up needing a bit more line as I messed up the first time around, so I went to O'reilly's and they had a Gates Barricade w/GreenShield line that I purchased. Ended up paying $14 for 3 feet of line but I can tell it is worth it. Really good quality line. Here is a link to the page with information about this line. It has a 225 psi working pressure, which is more than enough for our cars.

http://gates.com/brochure.cfm?brochu...cation_id=5348

whatudrivin

Little more of an update here. The lines are installed. Much easier this time around. Just soaked in hot water for 45-60 seconds then put some soapy water on the barb and everything just slid right on pretty easily.

Also I took the fuel level sender out to inspect the tank and here is what I found. Pictures pretty much say it all. The brown spots in the tank are sticky. My hand is small enough to fit down inside the tank. But it doesn't look too bad. I'm wondering if it will break up when the tank is filled up?

whatudrivin

Had to resize this image to upload it as rennlist for some reason will not let me use the image coding for images linked to imgur.com. or maybe it just blocked because of the size. Anyways here is what I found when opening the cap to the fuel level sender. My vacuum got a good work out in the back of the car last night. And I see a few brown recluse shells in there. Makes me glad I was wearing gloves.

whatudrivin

THANK YOU NoVector!!!! The fuel pump works very well. They are a bit noisy huh?

I flushed about a gallon of fuel through the lines and then pressurized the system. Everything was going perfect for the first 15-30 seconds of having the fuel pump on. Maybe a bit longer. Then I heard it.... POP! and the sound of running liquid.

Turns out I had a bad copper washer at the fuel pump and it blew out there. Of all things it was the cheapest and the only thing I forgot to get at Autozone.

Also there was a slight leak at the fuel bleeder on the passenger side fuel rail. I was trying to get that taken care of as I heard the back blow out. Not sure what I will have to do to get that to stop leaking but I guess I will find out tomorrow. Hope that I do not have to find another one of those ***** to seal it. Are they hard to find? Just in case.

NoVector

Brad - It shouldn't be noisy(?) Should just be a slight hummmm or buzzzzz sound. It's been sitting around for 10 years now; and as far as I know, it was the original on my 84. If nothing else, it will buy you a little time to sort other stuff out until you can get a new one. But anyway, I'm glad it works and you don't have to chase down electrical problems. Good luck! / Bruce

whatudrivin

Again thank you. It isn't too bad. But deff seems louder than it should. I'm thinking ut will get better the longer it is used. I bet it needs to get lubed up again. I'm going to run some Lucas through the system for the injectors and maybe that will help the pump. I did notice the pitch change a bit the longer it ran. But if the car was running I might not notice it. Just have to see come Saturday.

Should I be able to leave the pump running for 5 or 10 min without the car running? Or should I let it run for a minute or so to pressurize the hoses then let it sit as I check for leaks?

steve322s

as long as everything in the fuel system is working as is should you can run the pump to pressurize the system. if you have any injector leaking or an problem in the wur or return, gas not flowing back to the tank you will be risking hydrolock. if your going to be working on the system for any long periods with the relay jumpered i would advise before you try and start, pulling the plugs, removing the coil wire and cover it, then crank the engine over to make sure there isn't excecsive fuel in the cylinders.

good luck and keep up the good work, you will enjoy every mile once she out cruising the street.

Steve

whatudrivin

There shouldn't be excessive fuel in the cylinders because the fuel injectors haven't been squirting. When I pressure tested the rail I had the passenger side intake off and just the rail hooked up w/o the injectors in the intake. Nothing came out the injectors. I am also going to add some oil/ATF to each cylinder to help lubricate as I have just recently found out how long this car has been sitting. With that being said here is the most recent update regarding that information.

There isn't much to update on. Most of the recent information about my car has been in my fuel line thread.

I did find out more information about this car though. I had originally thought it had been sitting for about 4-5 years. However, I was talking to my girlfriend about it this weekend and the car has actually been sitting for at least 8-10 years. Supposedly at some point in that 10 years the car was started and driven for a bit but when/for how long it was driven cannot be determined. Probably over 5 years ago. This gives a bit of insight into the car and how bad it might turn out to be.

Not my only worry about this is the head gaskets... It has been sitting a very long time and has green antifreeze in it. From what I have learned so far this is probably not the correct antifreeze that needs to be in the car and I am sure that it has not been changed in some time. Is there a way I can check to see if the gaskets have started corroding? I'm about to flush the entire system. Would I be able to see particles in the water when I drain it? Also what is the best way to flush out the block with fresh water before adding new antifreeze and distilled water?