oaros

Hi,

for those of you that have midrise scissor type lifts.
How is access to the flexplate and gearbox area?

I have searched and found pictures of the underside of a white/pearl 928 on a midrise lift but it wasn't totally obvious to me what the working space is like.

I have no lifting equipment at all at the moment and the axle stands and jack I am considering are roughy half of what a chinese mid-rise would cost. Would love to get a real lift but garage not big enough and I am renting.

As this is my 1st post I want to say thanks for a great forum - without it getting my 928 and keeping it running would be every difficult (or expensive)

Oliver

linderpat

I would never crawl under one of those. I just don't trust them at all. Instead, if you can't get a decent 2 post or 4 post lift, get Ken's liftbars. Here's the liftbar site: http://liftbars.com/
I have them and love them, and you get plenty of clearance to do your work.

Herman K

Get a Max Jax read through this thread "Theo" in the Netherlands has one also check with him to see how and where he bought it.

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...ill-close.html

Bill Ball

I use my 4-post lift as a mid-rise due to my 8-foot ceiling height. See my avatar. Requires no anchoring, and is portable (came with casters) so it can be moved a round or even outside (depending on garage door configuration). Because of the ceiling limitation, I can get the deck to only 42" which puts the undercarraige at about 50" and it is completely accessible and comfortable to work on using low, rolling merchanics' stools.

Most of the mid-rise scissor lifts have a lot of structure in the way. So, they are great for wheel, brake and suspension work but difficult for torque tube access, etc. Max Jax doesn't suffer from that but needs anchoring. My 4-post cost less than a Max Jax, although I did pay another $600 to get a sliding hydraulic jack with it so I could more easily do wheel/brake work.

Two-post lifts are inherently wider than 4-posters. I chose 4 in order to allow full use of all the stalls in our garage. All the 2-post lifts I found would have taken at least another 18" of space from the adjacent stall.

Mongo

I have never heard complaints of mid-rise or scissor lifts. In fact I know someone with a Ferrari 355 that uses a mid-rise to remove the engine for timing belt service on the car. He swears it's the next best thing to sliced bread.

supercedar

Bill,
Which lift do you have?
I spent yesterday helping Jim and Sue with TB/WP on the GTS. Their lift was similar to what you might have. It did make the job painless.
Thomas

Bill Ball

It's an inexpensive "hobby" lift I bought from Greg Smith Equipment. Not as heavy duty as a professional lift but it has worked very well for me over the last 6 years.

http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/At...xh-pro8000.htm

GeorgeM

Ditto what Bill said. I have the Pro Park 8 Plus, also with the bridge jack for tire work, and love it.

Fortunately, I have an 11' ceiling. I even replaced my standard garage door opener with a side mount jackscrew type to get a bit of extra height for stacking cars.

Mongo

George, are there any requirements based on the foundation of a house to support your lift? I remember reading something a while back which deterred my father from getting a lift for his garage. It had something to do with the foundation not being 'stamped' or something.

dr bob

When we (the MaxJax group) were shopping around, I noticed that Costco offeres a Dannmar 4-post lift similar to Bill's. linky: http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product...=1&topnav=&s=1

They deliver it in continental US. I don't know how that compares to others AFA quality. Getting a group together made it possible to beat the Costco price by a $hundred or so by getting them direct, and saved even more for people outside Cali but in states where there's a Costco presence, with avoided sales tax.

I considered the mid-rise lifts as I looked at options, but quickly discounted it because of the limited mid-car access. It's tough to drop the exhaust and bellhousing access cover for a flex-plate insaection, for instance. My car is on the pads now for a shift cable replacement, something that would be tough on a mid-rise due to the way the cable comes from above the torque tube forward of the gearbox. I'll say that they are fine for tire-wheel changes, engine service and the like, but anything between the lift points under the car will be tough. My last issue with the mid-rise is what to do with it when it's not being used. It is under the car all the time with car on short ramps/pads to clear it, or it hangs on the wall someplace. My MaxJax installation is such that I can move one of the columns to the wall and have full access around and under the car if needed. I can roll both columns out in less than a minute if I'm in a hurry, and put them back in just a few (extra torque-wrench step on set-up). I use my work bay for more than car stuff, so the movable columns are a blessing.

cpayne

+1 on lift bars Still saving for a lift though

GeorgeM

4" of 3000 psi concrete (which I believe is the standard garage slab setup)... that's it.

When I had the garage built (it was an addition), I asked them to add at least an extra inch, just for gravy.

There's also no requirement to bolt down most 4-post residential lifts. They say that it may "scoot" if used alot, but I have seen no movement. I have mine sitting on Racedeck, and have had no issues whatsoever. I'm prepared to bolt it down if I think I need to, but I have seen no reason to do so.

The Greg Smith Equipment website has lots of info/FAQs.

Bill Ball

The Costco lift appears to be identical to mine from 2005. The lift Greg Smith sells has improved a bit since then, including a better locking mechanism and grease zerks for the pulley bearings, plus he has always sold it with the drip trays, jack tray and casters, and he sells the very useful sliding jack. He does charge for shipping, which I believe was $200-300. Either would work fine. Note the thing weighs almost a ton. I had a load of fun getting it up the driveway and into my garage, but assembly was not all that hard.

Bill Ball

This thread has some photos of a scissor lift holding a 928.

https://rennlist.com/forums/928-foru...ooks-fine.html

oaros

Sorry for not getting back to this sooner.

Thanks to all, thanks Bill for the photo link. So what did I do after all the good recommendations - something completely different. I got a set of ramps; the type used by car dealers for forecourt displays. Reasons are as mentioned before I am renting, the concrete slab in the garage inspires no confidence for something like a MaxJax, the ramp I got can be wheeled onto the driveway and be used for the 4x4.

Anyway - thread worthless without pictures so here it goes.

Thanks again to everyone.
Oliver