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Old 07-07-2015, 01:43 AM
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there are a few guys who drift the 944 but they are few and far between.

it might be easier/cheaper to pick a different car that is more widely used like a 240sx or RX7 with a solid axle.

or if its just the 924 looks you're going for...get a cheap/free 924 and put a 4-linked straight axle in the back.
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Dont be fooled by the lack of knowledge to say at least that lurks around this particular board...this not to call anyone ignorant.
The 924 is not 50% down on power compared to the 944. Unless my math is very wrong, 115 is not 50% of 140.

In US due to emission regulations the 924 motor has been tuned down but you can fairly easly and cheaply make up the US regulation dictated handicap.
All you need is a set of old european 924 pistons and a distributor really..to get back to the 125HP.

Again, dont be fooled by the lack of knowledge on the 924 and the persistent refusal to gain that knowledge that lurks around this board.
Putting money into any car could be a mistake, a 924 is just another good car you can throw your money at and love it.
If you're going to make a drifter, a 924 is a better choice as it is already ligher and nimbler than the superior 944.
Both the 924 and the 944 NA power gains are limited, but i think the 2L engine is financially more feasible to reach 150-160HP than the 2.5L engine to reach 170. Plus..the 924 are so cheap in the US you can build another NA engine every weekend

Regarding the body kit: Although the Carrera GT body kit looks epic i would suggest you invest in suspension and engine mods before adding the body kit. Why? because its a quite expensive kit and cheap replications are hard to install and just look wrong.

here are some cool stickers that will go nicely with your 924:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Buy-a-924-...item3f4fd57fe3

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/All-you-ne...item3f4fd57daf

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lifes-to-s...item41991ffccc

If you want to keep it a NA and drift a low power NA it can be done...but you will have to do alot of modifications to the suspension and you will absolutely need an oil scraper.

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I would think that a strong enough LSD trans and coilovers would be too expensive for a 924 or 944. A motor swap would cost more than a much better car and probably take 1-2 years. The 944 clutch is also not fun to replace, and an OEM one with the rubber center is a bad idea for an abusive mission.
A nearly turn-key option would be an old Supra, I had a Mk 2 as an AutoX car and it was great and had LSD. Easy to work on, parts were cheap, slid predictably (although that was not generally my intention).

If you have not seen MCM's drift pig build, it's pretty hilarious and the car ultimately performed well:
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Originally Posted by chanothemekhanik
I don't kno any performance company's for the 924
Neither does anyone else.

If you want to drift it, I'd put in a Chevy small block and call it done.
Old 07-07-2015, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by morghen
Dont be fooled by the lack of knowledge to say at least that lurks around this particular board...this not to call anyone ignorant.
The 924 is not 50% down on power compared to the 944. Unless my math is very wrong, 115 is not 50% of 140.
the US-spec 924s, at least the early ones, had under 100hp didn't they?

are euro type parts that easy to come across and ship over here? i'd think theyd be like the euro 944 pistons that cost 1000+ for a set and apparently are hens teeth for availability.
Old 07-07-2015, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by chanothemekhanik
Thanks for the input I thought more about it the reason I was wanting to do the swap is because I plan on drifting a 924 or a 944 because of the almost perfect weight distribution. Because I bought a '87 944S to drift but there to expensive if I broke something. And 924's where I live are practically free and I love the carrera gt body kits they have an I was wondering if u guys could put down some links for some 924 performance parts. Thanks
Drifting a perfectly balanced car isn't what you want. Theses cars were designed for handling not drifting. 150HP will barely get those wheels spinning LOL
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bingo. these cars are ostensibly, closer to F1 than a Nissan Z.

after being set up properly, getting one of these to break loose requires considerable effort.

and when they do,

it doesn't drift like this (much more than you'd expect an F1 car to drift like this);

www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkTCjSsOy3w


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I think early (76?)canadian version had under 100(95?) but its easy to find an 80+ car that has the right parts in it.
924 NA pistons are cheap as they never really break
Plus one could get them made by Diamond for a few hundred right there in the US.
I have a set of NA pistons and i dont know what to do with them..i also have a set of 944 pistons(one i cut with an angle grinder) and other engine bits that i'm probably going to scrap.

Regarding going for a japanese car instead of a 924/44. Yea its easier but so played out that its not worth going that road in my opinion..you're just going to be another guy driving a fart can with some kit off ebay on it.

I'm sure some silly stiff coilovers and sway bars could make a 924/44 drift. And one does not need to burn wide tires you know..so power is not everything.

Search for this guy F2..he has been drifting these cars for many years now.

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Yes but in this case the OP said "Because I bought a '87 944S to drift but there to expensive if I broke something."

Just getting an LSD into a 924 is pretty expensive is it not?



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