944 Rod Bearing - Fix?
#48
Rennlist Member
I'm interested if anyone can confirm that the bearings this mod is said to rely on, an L6 Toyota application bearing CB1628H, is or will be discontinued by the manufacturer. Has anyone heard anything?
#50
Rennlist Member
Run-of-the-mill bearings, yes. But the Clevite high performance versions of it, maybe. I tried ordering a set of .25mm undersize bearings for my machined crank and was told by four vendors they have been discontinued. I do have a set, but they arrived to me with some nicks in them because they were not packed carefully. The whole point of foing this mod is to take advantage of a higher standard bearing. I don't know if using the regular CB1628P bearing gets us anything.
#51
Run-of-the-mill bearings, yes. But the Clevite high performance versions of it, maybe. I tried ordering a set of .25mm undersize bearings for my machined crank and was told by four vendors they have been discontinued. I do have a set, but they arrived to me with some nicks in them because they were not packed carefully. The whole point of foing this mod is to take advantage of a higher standard bearing. I don't know if using the regular CB1628P bearing gets us anything.
#52
Drifting
I'm trying a set of Calico dry film lubricant coated rod bearings this season ... friend of mine showed me the ones he removed from his SP2 car after close to 50 hrs and they looked like new !
Basically a set of OEM Glycos which you send to Calico Coatings and they charge around $30.00 to coat the eight bearing shells.
I did consider the MM bearing mod but in the long run it's cheaper and safer to replace stock bearings every season ...
Basically a set of OEM Glycos which you send to Calico Coatings and they charge around $30.00 to coat the eight bearing shells.
I did consider the MM bearing mod but in the long run it's cheaper and safer to replace stock bearings every season ...
#53
Race Car
Just for the record....and to answer an earlier question (although not a turbo engine), we have been running Pauter rods with the MM bearing mod for close to a calendar year worth of PCA racing.
Lost some valve springs in January at Sebring in enduro and had valve stem seal particles and broken seal spring pieces throughout the oil system so we pulled the cooler to flush and the pan to clean.
While in there, pulled #2 bearing cap to check condition and these bearings were mint.
Swepco 20/5, high revs, front running car with a lot of grip.
We previously ran Swain coated bearings but replaced them every 1-2 seasons.
Let me put my confidence in this modification (which checks and trues both rod ends too) in perspective....., I have a brand new set of factory STD Glycos (coated) for sale for the price of plain bearings with free shipping....
T
Lost some valve springs in January at Sebring in enduro and had valve stem seal particles and broken seal spring pieces throughout the oil system so we pulled the cooler to flush and the pan to clean.
While in there, pulled #2 bearing cap to check condition and these bearings were mint.
Swepco 20/5, high revs, front running car with a lot of grip.
We previously ran Swain coated bearings but replaced them every 1-2 seasons.
Let me put my confidence in this modification (which checks and trues both rod ends too) in perspective....., I have a brand new set of factory STD Glycos (coated) for sale for the price of plain bearings with free shipping....
T
#54
Nordschleife Master
Thanks. This is very useful information.
How about anyone running stock rods (heavier than Paiter rods I assume) with a turbo car (lower tension loads and higher compression loads)?
How about anyone running stock rods (heavier than Paiter rods I assume) with a turbo car (lower tension loads and higher compression loads)?
Just for the record....and to answer an earlier question (although not a turbo engine), we have been running Pauter rods with the MM bearing mod for close to a calendar year worth of PCA racing.
Lost some valve springs in January at Sebring in enduro and had valve stem seal particles and broken seal spring pieces throughout the oil system so we pulled the cooler to flush and the pan to clean.
While in there, pulled #2 bearing cap to check condition and these bearings were mint.
Swepco 20/5, high revs, front running car with a lot of grip.
We previously ran Swain coated bearings but replaced them every 1-2 seasons.
Let me put my confidence in this modification (which checks and trues both rod ends too) in perspective....., I have a brand new set of factory STD Glycos (coated) for sale for the price of plain bearings with free shipping....
T
Lost some valve springs in January at Sebring in enduro and had valve stem seal particles and broken seal spring pieces throughout the oil system so we pulled the cooler to flush and the pan to clean.
While in there, pulled #2 bearing cap to check condition and these bearings were mint.
Swepco 20/5, high revs, front running car with a lot of grip.
We previously ran Swain coated bearings but replaced them every 1-2 seasons.
Let me put my confidence in this modification (which checks and trues both rod ends too) in perspective....., I have a brand new set of factory STD Glycos (coated) for sale for the price of plain bearings with free shipping....
T
#56
Rennlist Member
I am building a 944 8V NA engine with Pauter rods and the MM selected Clevite bearing. The box states it is a high performance bearing.
I am installing Glyco Swain P9 coated main bearings. I plan to use BradPenn semi-synthetic 10W-50 oil after the SAE 30 BradPenn break in oil.
Main and rod bearings should be good for at least 125 hrs, verify with annual Blackstone oil analysis.
I am installing Glyco Swain P9 coated main bearings. I plan to use BradPenn semi-synthetic 10W-50 oil after the SAE 30 BradPenn break in oil.
Main and rod bearings should be good for at least 125 hrs, verify with annual Blackstone oil analysis.
#58
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#59
Nordschleife Master
We are having good success at 8000 rpm and some manifold pressure with ACL Ford Cosworth race bearings with light custom Carrillo rods and Mahle “Evotec” style pistons. That’s another bearing option if making all custom parts, but that’s not a nearly as cost effective path as the solution in this thread.