eric951turbo

Ok, maybe a bad idea as a thread. If odurandina likes it, it must be really bad lol

theiceman

Sorry if i'm trolling , but i am just commenting as this happens on the 911 forum often , fortunately it does not happen on Rennlist as the people on it are of very high quality, but does happen on pelican a lot .. sometimes you have to say WOW !!!
That being said however it is unreasonable to come here and expect to be given the magic bullet that will fix all your problems every time.

The reason for technical discusion forums is to describe in as much detail as possible your symptoms and a discusion ensues . After that a hypothesis is derived as to the route cause .. If someone disagrees it is discussed further and perhaps a new hypothesis is derived based on further input. This is a process, not a place of " i have a problem .. please give me the correct answer for free the first time " Sometimes people are right sometimes they are wrong .. thats the way it is .. if you dont want to spend money working on an ISV or a TPS then take it to the dealer .. see how expensive that is ..

To say you want to make a public list of people you trust i feel is highly disrespectfull to all the members who try to help based on what they have seen before. This is a community like any other and if you are a regular reader and contributor , you will learn who has the wizdom and years of knowledge. Your method makes people NOT want to contribute as they feel they are not trusted and wont be heard , and that is not good for any community ..

All the best

odurandina

note:

i edited my post to be extra crass, snide and useless over even the normal levels.


p.s. wanna see something truly sick?

watch Shane Back-dorian on this one (shacked 7 maybe 8 times)....

http://www.surfline.com/surflinetv/s...e-dorian_98631

VirginiaF1

Often in business, we develop subject matter experts responsible for maintaining the most accurate "Effect/Cause/Solution" database.
I'd concur that (especially for new posters) an SME list is quite helpful but its creation and publishing would be off-putting to those not included;
despite their best efforts and occasional correct diagnosis.
To use a modern phrase, I'd fear a "chilling effect".
Should any member wish his/her own private, personal list... By all means.
IMHO

thirdgenbird

We may be in similar fields.

theiceman

I think we all are .. I manage our companies subject matter experts and the escalation process involved with utilizing that resource.

John_AZ

theiceman said it well:

J_AZ

MAGK944

Even the experts get it wrong sometimes, ask any of the Pro racing teams, F2, Indy, GT, etc. It shouldn't dismiss you listening to them or discouraging them from posting.

I've gotton more out of this forum that I could ever contribute, read posts, make my own judgements is all I can say. It's a "discussion" forum, so let people discus and you can come to your own conclusions.

Not saying you do it but posts like "Help No Start" prompts an answer from everyone on this forum "Happened to me once, it was..."

kinda5150

the funny thing is, the cars are relatively identical w/the same problems for the most part, but ...and that's a big but, the underlying cause of the problem is different for many. having spares of the most common problem parts is a good idea, as is finding someone near you who also has 944. me personally, i search, write down a list of common solutions, then test each to narrow down the culprit. the shop manual is quite useful, but also isn't the holy grail. research from the various forums and good testing equipment will fix just about any problem you encounter...at least that's been my experience ymmv. it doesn't hurt to know a master mechanic or two! (thanks todd!)

LuigiVampa

I also see a lot of garbage question - "my car squeaks. Does this mean I should replace X?"

I've asked a lot of questions and you need to aggregate the answers to a degree. Are there certain people who I trust more? Certainly. But by making a list you may lose out on some quality answers.

jc85G

I don't think this thread was started to be disrespectful to anyone. There's nothing wrong with acknowledging those who do know what they are talking about. There will always be those who regurgitate the knowledge of others in attempt to guess correctly so that they appear knowledgeable, regardless of how the question is asked or how much information is supplied. A true diagnostician will know what questions to ask based on the information & symptoms given, there shouldn't be guessing, just facts. However, this is a forum not a site for professionals to give their knowledge for free, so be thankful to the few who do. Beggars can't be choosers. Ultimately its the responsibility of the car owner to run tests, provide the proper info and make the final decision on the repair.

GTSilver944

If you enjoy putting in the time and effort to work on the car, read up on things you don't know, and learn from more experienced enthusiasts in your area that like to wrench, then you won't need a "list of trust" - you'll be able to critically evaluate any input from Rennlist for yourself. These cars require a bit of patience, but you'll certainly pick up invaluable skills and knowledge along the way.

Paulyy

The way i see it is that if you dont know the answer, you dont say anything. Or if you think you know the answer you'd try to help by saying what you think.

jc85G

I completely agree. If you're not sure or are just guessing you should say so. There are too many people guessing without a clue. That is part of the reason why I've avoided the forums for so long. Its frustrating to see wrong and/or misleading information passed off as knowledge.

FrenchToast

This is the problem with any public forum. Anyone can join. And it isn't just the internet. Some companies that specialize in these cars sometimes don't know what they are talking about.

I know I sound like a pessimist. However when it comes to safety or structural aspects of any car I never trust anyone on any forum, only trained professionals.

This isn't to say there aren't knowledgable people on here. There are.

+1. I can admit to posting wrong info, or not saying I was unsure. But I usually try to go back and edit my post if that is the case.

Take care,