My buddy Phil is getting screwed over by some guy in South Florida over the 944 Turbo
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My buddy Phil is getting screwed over by some guy in South Florida over the 944 Turbo
EDIT: I thought we worked it out, but apparently not. The man still needs to send my friend his wheels, or face the cost of the wheels, PLUS court costs and possibly lawyer fees. I hate scumbuckets.
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My friend in Orlando (some of you have met him, seen the car) is getting screwed. Advice welcome.
Phil sold his 1987 944 Turbo with 29,000 miles (he had it for about 4 or 5 months) to Mr. Napoli who came up and picked the car up in Orlando. He sold it to him with the 911 Cup rims that Phil purchased after the fact, but included the Phone Dials that the car came with. The man WANTED the Phone Dials, NOT the Cup rims, but asked Phil if he could use the Cup rims while he sent the Phone Dials to be reconditioned.
Phil, being the nice guy that he is, said yes. But he got IN WRITING and SIGNED by Mr. Napoli, that the 911 Cup rims belong to PHIL, and that after Mr. Napoli gets his Phone Dials reconditioned, he will ship Phil the 911 Cup rims back. This is a signed, in writing, contract.
Now Phil calls Mr. Napoli about the wheels. The man now says that he took the 951 to a mechanic who said that the entire car has been repainted, and that the odometer has been rolled back (because of some scratching in the screws to the instrument cluster). Those of you in Central Florida who saw Phil at the CF meet a few months back, who have seen the car first hand, know that it is in AWESOME condition, and the 29,000 miles is completely accurate.
I doubt he had a mechanic check anything, but either way it is a complete lie (or the mechanic is an idiot), and I don't know why some scratches on the screws prove anything. Phil did not tamper with anything in that car, and he had no idea the car was repainted (we have doubts that is even the truth, anyway).
With all that said, IF by some stretch of the imagination, the miles were tampered with that Phil did not know about (PO maybe), that is not Phil's responsibility to find out!! If he knew, he wouldn't have purchased the car!! Phil does not owe this Mr. Napoli anything, let alone $1,200 CUP wheels, and for the man to keep them is wrong, and in this case, illegal as Phil has the signed contract regarding the wheel agreement.
Phil in good faith let this man borrow his $1,200 rims so that he could drive the car while the Phone Dials were being reconditioned. Now he is getting screwed over. Phil is going to sue him in small claims court, but he is only 21 and who knows, this guy may have some high priced lawyer.
Any advice you could give Phil would be great. He reads this board and has posted before, and will probably see this thread. He asked me to post this. He'll be on the phone with the guy most likely much of today.
If Mr. Napoli is reading this, SEND MY BUDDY his wheels back, as you promised and signed for.
Thank you,
Matt
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My friend in Orlando (some of you have met him, seen the car) is getting screwed. Advice welcome.
Phil sold his 1987 944 Turbo with 29,000 miles (he had it for about 4 or 5 months) to Mr. Napoli who came up and picked the car up in Orlando. He sold it to him with the 911 Cup rims that Phil purchased after the fact, but included the Phone Dials that the car came with. The man WANTED the Phone Dials, NOT the Cup rims, but asked Phil if he could use the Cup rims while he sent the Phone Dials to be reconditioned.
Phil, being the nice guy that he is, said yes. But he got IN WRITING and SIGNED by Mr. Napoli, that the 911 Cup rims belong to PHIL, and that after Mr. Napoli gets his Phone Dials reconditioned, he will ship Phil the 911 Cup rims back. This is a signed, in writing, contract.
Now Phil calls Mr. Napoli about the wheels. The man now says that he took the 951 to a mechanic who said that the entire car has been repainted, and that the odometer has been rolled back (because of some scratching in the screws to the instrument cluster). Those of you in Central Florida who saw Phil at the CF meet a few months back, who have seen the car first hand, know that it is in AWESOME condition, and the 29,000 miles is completely accurate.
I doubt he had a mechanic check anything, but either way it is a complete lie (or the mechanic is an idiot), and I don't know why some scratches on the screws prove anything. Phil did not tamper with anything in that car, and he had no idea the car was repainted (we have doubts that is even the truth, anyway).
With all that said, IF by some stretch of the imagination, the miles were tampered with that Phil did not know about (PO maybe), that is not Phil's responsibility to find out!! If he knew, he wouldn't have purchased the car!! Phil does not owe this Mr. Napoli anything, let alone $1,200 CUP wheels, and for the man to keep them is wrong, and in this case, illegal as Phil has the signed contract regarding the wheel agreement.
Phil in good faith let this man borrow his $1,200 rims so that he could drive the car while the Phone Dials were being reconditioned. Now he is getting screwed over. Phil is going to sue him in small claims court, but he is only 21 and who knows, this guy may have some high priced lawyer.
Any advice you could give Phil would be great. He reads this board and has posted before, and will probably see this thread. He asked me to post this. He'll be on the phone with the guy most likely much of today.
If Mr. Napoli is reading this, SEND MY BUDDY his wheels back, as you promised and signed for.
Thank you,
Matt
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Sorry to hear this Matt, I hope that your buddy has good luck getting his wheels back. Or if there is a problem maybe the rennlisters in FL could help out
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I'm not sure his first name (Phil told me but I forgot) and he lives in South Florida, Palm Beach or Miami area. I'll find out.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by nh3:
<strong>He could take a ride to S. Florida with the contract, find the car w/ rims, grab a local cop and repo them.
nh3</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Sounds like my kind of justice nh3!
<strong>He could take a ride to S. Florida with the contract, find the car w/ rims, grab a local cop and repo them.
nh3</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Sounds like my kind of justice nh3!
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Ok he sues him in small claims and wins. Your buddy needs to pay a couple of bucks first and consult a lawyer for tips. I cannot remember what its called to enforce a S. claims judgement but he will need to know it. I sued the guy I bought my 944 from for not getting me the title, he did not show up, I won. BID DEAL. Still did not get my title from him (I got it through D.O.T.). Sounds to me like he will win, but will no doubt have to take measeures to enforce it. A standing judgement against someone may take years to produce a tangable victory unless he know the legal way to TURN UP THE HEAT. As for me I got my title, have the car, let the looser try to obtain credit and watch him be denyed.
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I think any question on the condition of that car is BS. That thing was IMMACULATE and every freakin guage cluster plastic thing has scratches on it..mine has some..did I roll my odo back? I don't think so.
I think with the contract he shouldn't have too much a problem getting them back. It was a smart move to get that because you never know whose word you can actually trust anymore..
I think with the contract he shouldn't have too much a problem getting them back. It was a smart move to get that because you never know whose word you can actually trust anymore..