ian

Well one of the results of the great chasis swap that keith and I are doing is that I now have a 951 w/ Ice Sharks light kit (keith is getting one too, it just is not here yet).

But anyway I just wanted to give a quick review, for all those who have not heard these lights are incredible. Driving around I felt that the low beams were up to the task and that they are the equal of modern headlights. Then the highbeams are incredible, better than most modern lights.

In my mind they are well worth the money, and they are a very welcome addition to the 951...

led

I definitely need $ <img border="0" alt="[crying]" title="" src="graemlins/crying.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[crying]" title="" src="graemlins/crying.gif" />

tecart

did you get the wiring harness also or jus the headlights and bulbs ian? thanks

David Floyd

Guy's this Iceshark lighting kit is well worth the money.

This modification is right at the top of favorite list.

UDPride

Im a complete moron when it comes to fixing things. I can fix or tinker with computers, but cars aint it. How much does Icesharks lights go for. Anybody in the Dayton area want to install them on my 951 the right way the first time so I dont blow something up. I'll spot you a case of Corona. Maybe I could do some pro bono web stuff for you.

Stock 951 lights suck a mean one. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />

ian

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by tecart:
<strong>did you get the wiring harness also or jus the headlights and bulbs ian? thanks</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">It is the whole headlight kit, not just the bulbs, keith actually did the install on this car (because it was his) and he said after the install the aditional grounds actually stabalized the gauges in the car (so an addtional bonus for installing it).

And yes it is very much worth the money, I purchased a new set of keiths car (my old car) just so I could keep them.

IceShark

Yeah, Ian has the Full Boat Kit in his new swapped chassis.

You can see what lighting looks like with just the Cibie lenses and 100/90 watt bulbs if you go to:

<a href="http://www.gururacing.net" target="_blank">http://www.gururacing.net</a>

And click on Light Upgrades. Those are Ben S.'s pictures of just Cibie lenses and new bulbs that I sold him. I had nothing to do with those pictures other than saying I had no problem with publishing them.

You will get 100's % better than that with the Full Boat Package.

I am expecting a new shipment of the Cibie lenses to show up tomorrow or Thursday. Then I will no longer have to tie them with wiring harness orders; you can buy just the Cibies and bulbs.

Up to you, start out with the first steps or go whole hog. Danno has the prices on his page. Not totally accurate, but close enough. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Anyone can get them, just let me know at wraydan@msn.com.

pete944

UDPride, if you want I'll install the kit for you as long as you can hold off until spring. The garage is just a little chilly right now.

tecart

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by ian:
<strong>
Driving around I felt that the low beams were up to the task and that they are the equal of modern headlights. Then the highbeams are incredible, better than most modern lights.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">ice this i dont seem to get, why are people with your light and harness upgrade comparing the low beams (that i will use 99% of the time), to modern headlights and not better than modern headlights? thats what i dont get, shouldn't your kit make the lighting better then modern lights? i mean your also using a 100/90 watt bulb and modern cars still use 55 watts to acheive the same results ian mentions. Ice please tell me what is a correct statement of the low beams, i know what to expect on high beams so dont include that, its the low beam results that will sell me ok, post back asap

ian

I don't want you to think that these are not great headlight, I am comparing them to tbe xenon headlight on my dads 2002 M3, or moms 2001 5 series. So I drive around with some of the best low beam headlamps around when i'm not in the p-car.

The low beams are so much better than stock it isn't funny.

So take into account the other cars I drive around in, when you read my statements....

IceShark

tecart, I think Ian just straightened things out. He was comparing to new BMW factory HID arc lamps. You know, the ones that cost a couple thousand bucks?

No one expected my halogen setup to even come close to HID but people that compare them side by side start scratching their heads and wondering what the heck is going on. Why do you think Ian bought another Headlight Package?

I'd sell an HID kit if I thought it would be worth it. I just haven't found anything to be better much less worth the cost.

tecart

thanks for the clear up, i am down to 2 last questions, if i go with the full boat kit, how does drainage on my battery work, will the fullboat kit ever drain more battery levels than the stock headlight system? also if i go with the fullboat kit why are people using 100/90 watt bulbs? i ask because wont 55/60 watt bulbs in the kit work and give you great lighting in the fullboat setup, also i dont want cops to get annoyed and ticket me if my low beams with 100/90 watts are too bright(like my highbeams are on), i dont want to be brighter then what is legal for low beams in new york state, but i need a lot more power to even get to the middle of the pack, justconfused about why your using 100 watt bulbs instead of 55 or 60 watts on low beam since you got a better lense/harness and connectors, thanks ice

IceShark

Battery "drainage". The installation of the kit should atually improve battery levels, everything held constant, while improving headlight performace. The wiring simply insures that more of the current/voltage that leaves a power source actually gets to the light bulb rather than being wasted in heat resistance. It also removes the headlight load from the stock wiring system so the stock system is under less of an amp draw, so less resistive voltage drop to the rest of the car. Then, the new voltage regulator will bring the battery up to full charge quicker and reduce that load from the electrical system and you will see higher system voltage levels. You will see a good jump on your dash voltage gauge.

Now, if you go with 90 watt low beams, you will add 70 watts of load to the car, which is a little over 5 amps. This is insignificant on a system that has a 90 or 115 amp alternator. It is a smaller load than turning on your fog lights.

60/55 watt bulbs will work just great with the kit and you will have much more light than running with stock wiring. The reason everyone wants to run 100/90 is to get even better lighting, like HID arc lighting. And because we are using the Cibie E-Code lenses with the sharp low beam cutoff we can run overwatted without bothering other drivers or the cops. I have been running 80, 90 or 100 watts in low beam for 20 years and there has never been a problem. Unless a cop takes your lens apart he is never going to know what you are running, don't worry about it.

Or else do the kit and run 60/55 high output bulbs if this issue really bothers you. Oh, and what is legal on brightness is pretty confused now that HIDs are running on the street. They are tossing out 2 to 3 TIMES more lumens that the 1000 lumens the standard 55 watt halogens are supposed to.

Danno

"also i dont want cops to get annoyed and ticket me if my low beams with 100/90 watts are too bright(like my highbeams are on)"

The thing about the e-code beam pattern is that there's a sharp cut-off between the lighted road section and the stuff above 3-feet off the ground. When I drive in the far left lane, I can see a sharp beam right up to about 6-inches below the concrete barrier in the middle of the freeway. This beam goes from left to right and completely floods the entire road ahead of me. But above the beam, it's completely dark. Nothing gets over the concrete barrier to blind on-coming traffic. If you were standing on the sidewalk or in the opposing lane looking at a car with IceShark's light-cannons coming at you, they would actually look darker compared to normal headlights (because most of the light is going on the ground, not into the sky).

That's why I'm running 130/80-watt bulbs in mine (available at most motorcycle shops).

rfuerst

I have a IceShark wiring harness and voltage regulator for sale if anyone is interested,I am selling my 944S because I purchased a 911SC,this has never been installed and still in the original box with all supplied instructions,I am asking $160.00 and I will pay the freight in the continental U.S. I wish this harness would fit my 911 because it is a work of art!