I bought new Zimmerman rotors and metal master pads, and really don't have the time (or tools) to do it myself. I called my mechanic to see what he would charge me. He said it could take 3-5 hours to do!? Broken down, he said pad and rotor removal and installation could be an hour each axle, then another hour for bleeding and refilling the brake fluid. The extra time might be needed if something is stuck, frozen, etc.
Does this sound reasonable? I can see paying $240 (3 hours)...but anything more than that seems harsh to me.
If I had a lift, and a bleeder...and the time...maybe I would try it. But right now, I need it done fast and right.
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Do it yourself. You'll be amazed at how quickly you can get it done. This is one job you don't need a lift for, a jack some jackstands, and some basic tools ($240 dollars would more than cover everything you need).
There are some things on these cars that will make you cry when you go to work on them, and then there are things like the brakes that are so easy to get apart you wonder why everyone doesn't do it that way.......
Best of luck...
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I don't wanna bother other family guys by having them spend 4 hours in my driveway on a Saturday or Sunday. My original idea was to do the pads and rotors myself, then bring it to a mechanic to power bleed and refill.
Then I started adding up how much time it would take to get the car on jackstands, take the wheels off, etc, etc. Hence my call to the mechanic.
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Your neighbors might not find it to be a bother -- as long as you don't do this every weekend. In my apartment, my neighbors find it amusing and comforting that someone actually know how to work on cars -- and on porsches at that. I also let their kids help out, which their parents are more than happy to allow (so the kids can do free oil change in the future).
Going back to your mechanic, you might be getting a high quote on labor because you're supplying the parts. You just took away their margin on supplying parts, so he might be making up for it.
Another thought: do you reallly need a Porsche specialist for this job? The hourly rate for a regular mechanic must surely be lower.
Good point. I could bring the car to the local mechanic @ $60 an hour, assuming there's no "Porsche specific problems" that would require a 944 expert?
I just don't like the extra 2 hour wiggle room my mechanic says he may need. That turns a $240 bill into a $400 nightmare for a "simple" job. And it never works out to "this only took me 2 hours, so I'm charging you less" with this guy!
You guys are insane, if you are doing pads and rotors (front only), it should be done in less than 45 mins, including time to jack it up, take the wheels off and replace the parts. There is no reason to bleed the brakes (though it is a good idea) as you dont need to open up the bleed screws to do that work.
This is the easiest job ever, gross margin is in the high 80% range as most techs can do this in no more than an hour (if they are slow and use hand tools). If the rotor is rusted to the hub, who care, you are replacing them, grab a BFH and get to it.
Andy double that amount of time, he is not far off 2 hours for front and back at a shop is about right. It can be done at least that quick at the house with hand tools. Unbolt caliper from spindle, unscrew rotor, put on new rotor, screw it in. Pop pads out, compress caliper pistons, pop pads in, place new caliper on new rotor, tighten. Done X4, whole car done.