Wachuko

Folks,

Anything specific to the 912 to look for? Going to look at a SWB 912 tomorrow and might buy it on the spot if everything checks out. But what should I look for??
Not familiar with the 4 cylinder cars. I did search and found a few comments on the generator. Again, looking for stuff that is specific to the 912. I am looking at engine bay photos to check against the car that I am looking at... to try to identify missing/modified parts from a stock one...

I will get under the car to look at the front pan, brakes, under carriage condition, etc. That is common to all 911/912... check for rust in the windshield corners, rear shelve, rear window corners, sills, etc.

Wish me luck. Really looking forward to owning a long nose.

Wachuko

Found this list on another forum:

Wachuko

1967 Porsche 912 Inspection

P (Stuttgart) 354000 – 355601
K (Osnabrück) 458101 - 463204

NUMBERS
Chassis serial number can be found in three places: driver's forward door post (placard), front latch panel (placard) and dash behind the knee pad (stamped into dash, knee pad must be removed to see).

Engine #:___________________________
Case #s: ___________________________
VIN: ______________________________
Transmission #: _______________________
Paint: _____________________________

OUTSIDE
Straightness of body (sight down sides)
Evenness of all door / panel gaps
Paint condition?
Evidence of repairs
Operation/fit of top and side curtains
Fit of top boot/tonneau
Condition / originality of wheels/hubcaps/tires (date stamp / manufacturer)
Presence and correctness of deco trim
Smoothness, detail of lower rocker panels
Smoothness, detail of wheel well arches
Reflectors in place
Type of bumpers/overriders/guards (correct?)
Apply "bondo-meter" to known rust areas, other areas around car (a good magnet works)

INSIDE PASSENGER COMPARTMENT
Steering wheel / horn ring correct?
Horn operational
Headlight flasher ("horn ring")
Operation / appearance of headlights, turn-signals, taillights
Operation / appearance of windshield wipers
Appearance of Seat bases
Operation of drivers' seat adjustment (fore and aft)
Operation of passenger seat adjustment (fore and aft)
Appearance of under-dash (overspray / wiring)
Appearance of Thresholds (lift rubber covers)
Appearance of Upholstery/seats
Appearance of Floor (Lift Rubber Mats)
Appearance of doors and door wells
Appearance of door undersides - rust?
Condition of "rolled edge" @ front of door opening
Sound of door closing

INSIDE LUGGAGE COMPARTMENT
Presence/appearance of body plaque
Appearance of hood underside (bent?)
Appearance of battery floor (bottom-tire out)
Appearance of battery floor (sides)
Appearance of battery and holddowns/cover
Presence / appearance of tool kit
Presence / appearance of jack and handle
Presence / appearance of spare tire (date stamp / manufacturer)
Appearance of matching number at hood hinge
Appearance of steering box
Appearance of wiring
Appearance of gas tank, sending unit, cap (date stamp)

INSIDE ENGINE COMPARTMENT
Appearance of matching number at deck lid
Correct engine for car?
Engine number: (#___________________)
Kind of carbs (correct?)
Kind of distributor (correct?) (009 points to incorrect parts... 022, 031 Good...)(#___________________)
Condition of oil on dipstick
Condition of engine wiring
General condition (other)
Type of muffler

UNDER THE CAR
Appearance of battery floor (probe)
Appearance of closing panels (front) (probe)
Appearance of frame struts (probe)
Appearance of fender braces (probe)
Appearance of closing panels (rear) (probe)
Appearance of longitudinal and jack-spurs (probe)
Appearance / operation of suspension & shocks
Appearance of rocker panels (bondo ?)
Condition of Suspension Pan
Appearance/Operation of heater boxes
Presence of oil leaks
Correct transmission for car? '67 902/1 Serial Number Range: 234001-238942 / '66 902/1 Serial Number Range: 221722-232164

DRIVING IMPRESSIONS
Oil /generator lights operational at key turn?
High beam light operational?
Turn signal indications correct? Auto-cancel?
Startup Oil Smoke?
Steering free play?
Engine smooth, quiet, powerful
Transmission smooth, quiet, adjusted properly
Excess slop in linkage?
Speedster gears? (tach / speedo relationship)
Tachometer smooth, accurate (Note redline, lag)
Speedometer/odometer
Oil Temp Gauge
Gas Gauge
Heater

NOTES

Check everything: chassis, body (especially the rocker panels under the doors). Also a #2 Philips head screwdriver: tap panels with the handle as fiberglass and metal have distinctive sounds. If a chassis panel sounds 'thin' (again distinctive), 'poke' it with the blade. A thin, rusty panel is easily penetrated. Suspension pan, chassis areas under rear torsion bar outer mounts, 'package shelf' and rear seat pans are subject to rust from the interior side.

Take a good magnet to test areas for bondo, a thin pointed screwdriver to check for rusted areas, LED light, camera, meter...

jorijori

Hi Wachuko, I think you should check out 912bbs.org more action going on there. I notice one member who is pretty active in answering question is Bob Harriman. Good luck...

Mr Michael B

1967 is a great year. I for one hope it pans out for you.

Wachuko

That is were I got that checklist and additional suggestions

Wachuko

Got it today... needs work but looks like a nice project. All the trim/parts are in there, nothing missing... just a few rusted out areas, nothing structural: floorpan under driver feet (not under pedals, between pedals and seat), under rear passenger seat, corners of windshield (I can see bubbles, and we all know these are prone areas anyway...)and right corner rear glass.. I can see rust from the engine bay looking at the area... needs a complete respray, looks like it is painted in red primer but not sure if it is primer or just the old paint job gone bad...

I just got home with it... hell of a drive from where it was...short drive, not far... but everything that could go wrong, did... To the point where it almost got out of the trailer anyway... it is home and parked safely and in one piece in front of the garage...

A few photos when I went to pick it up... I will post more of the bad and the ugly when I start cleaning everything.

Mr Michael B

luv-luv-luv it. Neat find.

ultra912

Congrats and enjoy!

Wachuko

Ended up paying US$8,200.00 for it.



Car is finally parked in my driveway...



A few photos of the ugly... making a list of stuff that needs attention...

1. Paint. It is beyond recovery. To the point that I thought it was painted red oxide... nope, it is the paint job that is past its prime... complete respray will be required.

2. Interior needs redoing. All trim bits and pieces are there... just needs new paneling to recover in new leather or vinyl...

3. Rust... see photos... driver floorboard, rear passenger bucket, bottom corners of windshield and rear window, passenger side, lower sill. And there is a spot of rust in one of the bumpers (red circled spot in the photo).

Driver floorboard:



Rear passenger bucket seat area:



Lower corners in front and rear glass frame...





Looking from inside the engine bay to the corners of the rear glass area:





Passenger side sill:



Bumper:



4. Engine... need to go over with photos of other similar engines to see what is missing or hacked. Seems to be almost all there. I have the PET and will check diagrams and part numbers. First order of things is to clean it up well and then look again to see condition. Engine runs, but a rebuild is also in order.





5. Exhaust system looks fine, just needs to be ceramic coated to bring it to looking like new.



6. I need to drive it (owner had different seats and the kept and original seats should be here on Saturday), but looks like shocks are needed all around.

I will get it up on the lift and inspect the rest... I want it to be excellent mechanically so that I can drive it while I attend to the metal work. Paint will be the last thing on the list.... I don't mind driving it around in different shades of primer

jorijori

Congrats...

I have a question, you paid $8200, why didn't you get a well sorted one for $20K+?
I mean the restoration cost will be $$$, I understand you have done many projects before, so I'd like to know your reasoning.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...vgc-24-5k.html

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...-survivor.html

ECS Tuning

Congratulations Jamie I can't wait to read more once the restoration process gets started.

Wachuko

Because I am incapable of making rational decisions when buying cars... just ask my wife and my friends...

Part of my therapy is fixing stuff... I need something to keep me busy in the garage and away from investing money on booze and hookers. Plus my wife is happy as she opens the garage door and sees me there every night and weekend...

Wachuko

Thank you!!! Right now is all discovery mode

Wachuko

A few more photos...

Toolkit:





Door panels need work as well...





So those the steering wheel center cover. All guages work but could use restoration... not sure cleaning alone will bring the back to looking like new.



I forgot to take the original radio with me... will do so when I go get the seats this Saturday



Car has a Seine Systems gate shift kit... but original shifter was included



This only needs to be cleaned and polished... that was just cleaning it with my hand for the photo...



Rear seats



Removed the door panel to check the internals... all fine. Also took the time to fix the door handle as you could not open the door from the outside. Simple fix as it was that the push button was outside of the mechanisim. Back in place and it is woking now.