SecaBlue

Came across this very rare (what appears ) genuine low klm '84 911 for auction in EU...

https://www.vavato.com/en/#!/auction...40c29f/lots/14

says 'not running' due to gearbox or clutch... any clues what may have failed on this before I commit? Even if I have to spend some $$ getting it going, I can only find one or two others for sale like it with this low klm on it, and worth considerably more running!

Thanks!

Amber Gramps

The engine and the odometer tell wildly differing stories. I'd believe the engine long before anything else. Parts are missing....parts are rusted..... aftermarket seats...

That car was subjected to a long slow salty death a very long time ago. I'd run far away and fast.

SecaBlue

true it may have lived (been stored) near the sea... but mild corrosion on engine parts is not unusual, and I think for its age it appears quite ok. My Parents once owned a BMW 325i and only drove it 15K klm in 3yrs, but since they lived very near the sea, even parts of the engine bay were showing signs of superficial corrosion.

I am deducting that the seats were replaced so this car was used as a track car... could explain the aftermarket distributor. Then looking at the plastics under the hood, and the spoiler, and the paint... it clearly has not seen the sun very much in its lifetime so far.

To me it looks a bit like a barn find... was probably parked up when the clutch/gearbox failed, and not touched since.

So back on my question... any ideas why there may be no drive?

Amber Gramps

Well.....in addition to all the wheel arch rock chip and track modification you noted and the add disclosing the bad tranny/clutch perhaps it has a bad tranny because someone missed a shift and floated and bent a valve or two? Never know.

SecaBlue

They say that the engine runs... just can't get drive to the wheels... so doubt it is a bent valve.

Amber Gramps

OK, I guess words mean different things to different people. I must have misunderstood that part. Let's hope it's just simple tranny troubles. ....and the distributor is stock, it's the magnacore wires that are not stock.

SecaBlue

oops... yes, that is what I meant :P

I guess what I am trying to get to the bottom of, is if anyone here has experienced any sort of drive failure on a similar age/model 911?

theiceman

thats hard to say , it could be anything from broken CVs to clutch to transmission . I dont think this is a "common" problem.

tcsracing1

The car is worth about $20k u.s plus or minus.

It will want money thrown at it to get back on the road. Mechanical. interior. Cosmetic exterior.
A long as the tub is not rusty you could have a decent car once finished.
Money will add up quickly.
And the 17% plus 21% VAT!?

First year of the 3.2L

theiceman

im not sure about the "rare" comment .. isnt it a run of the mill Carrera ?

GothingNC

That car is a mess...

SecaBlue

run of the mill '84 with only 20K klm is rare... the cheapest you can find in EU that has not had a rebuilt engine (i.e. maybe 5000km on the rebuild but 200K+ km on the car), or aftermarket body change, is approx $60K Euro, and that is a pre 84. Next '84 is... https://www.autoscout24.com/offers/p...3572?cldtidx=5

SecaBlue

21% sales VAT in Belgium... not that bad though considering in Sweden it is 25% :P

17% is the Auction fee... quite standard.

tcsracing1

Man, super expensive.

In canada you can buy a running driving carrera for $40k u.s, pay 12% sales tax and call it a day.
Auctions typically 6% to 10% max.

SecaBlue

yeah, that is why American Porsches are imported here and maybe why this auction has one from Japan... probably worth nothing over there.