What's it worth? '89 911 w/ dead engine + rust
09-22-2016, 12:19 PM
#1
What's it worth? '89 911 w/ dead engine + rust
Was looking at a '89 3.2 coupe and just got the PPI news back: One of the spark plugs has been impacted and the engine is likely in need of a rebuild.
In addition, there is bubbling/rust in the door jambs, a structural location.
What would you pay for something like this?
Car is a dark blue '89 Coupe w/ original engine, limited slip, sunroof, factory-installed spoilers, fuchs, and a tan interior in great shape. Unknown miles, estimates in the ~160k range.
In addition, there is bubbling/rust in the door jambs, a structural location.
What would you pay for something like this?
Car is a dark blue '89 Coupe w/ original engine, limited slip, sunroof, factory-installed spoilers, fuchs, and a tan interior in great shape. Unknown miles, estimates in the ~160k range.
09-22-2016, 12:58 PM
#3
Compression/leakdown shouldn't matter since the engine will need a teardown anyway...right?
No good pics of the body (paint is ok, body straight), but here are the rust spots: https://goo.gl/photos/vVvYnjFq3BwVsFR89
No good pics of the body (paint is ok, body straight), but here are the rust spots: https://goo.gl/photos/vVvYnjFq3BwVsFR89
09-22-2016, 02:14 PM
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Compression/leakdown shouldn't matter since the engine will need a teardown anyway...right?
No good pics of the body (paint is ok, body straight), but here are the rust spots: https://goo.gl/photos/vVvYnjFq3BwVsFR89
No good pics of the body (paint is ok, body straight), but here are the rust spots: https://goo.gl/photos/vVvYnjFq3BwVsFR89
Wrong plug? Too long? Was it put in wrong? Who knows... Not sure how else a plug gets impacted unless a rod let go, and you would know that when you ran it.
Was the car running? I assume so, since you got a ppi...
Too many variables to answer your question. As the buyer, I assume you want to hear low numbers... Not sure what the info you provided means, or shows...
09-22-2016, 02:25 PM
#5
Racer
Impacted by the rust as in it will have to be drilled out of the block I presume and then re-threaded.
Seeing those pics I think I'd walk but someone more experienced with the world of rust will surely chime in. In that condition I'm thinking $15-18k range with the amount of work that will be needed. Just a guess.
Seeing those pics I think I'd walk but someone more experienced with the world of rust will surely chime in. In that condition I'm thinking $15-18k range with the amount of work that will be needed. Just a guess.
09-22-2016, 04:44 PM
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Expect to find lots more rust... Those areas (around door striker, lower fender, headlight area) are all typically from a lot of dirt/moisture etc. being present on the reverse side, so generally, this rust appears to be due to environmental factors and I believe there will be more "hidden" rust areas, such as where the bumper shock mounts attach to the inner front fenders etc. Proper repair would require stripping down to the shell (at least mostly).
Its not like battery tray rust, for example, which is directly linked to a specific issue and limited in scope (i.e. you can have battery area rust in an otherwise perfect shell - a situation which is much more repairable).
I would only consider this car if you have the ability and patience to do most of the metal work yourself AND are able to get it at a very low price (not sure what number that is though... depends on mechanicals and interior as well). Having a pro fix this tub RIGHT would be very expensive.
I spent four+ years thoroughly rebuilding an '85 (bodywork, engine, suspension, everything). I did most of the work myself and it was a huge endeavour, so I have some idea. And my car did not have the rust problems your photos show.
Its not like battery tray rust, for example, which is directly linked to a specific issue and limited in scope (i.e. you can have battery area rust in an otherwise perfect shell - a situation which is much more repairable).
I would only consider this car if you have the ability and patience to do most of the metal work yourself AND are able to get it at a very low price (not sure what number that is though... depends on mechanicals and interior as well). Having a pro fix this tub RIGHT would be very expensive.
I spent four+ years thoroughly rebuilding an '85 (bodywork, engine, suspension, everything). I did most of the work myself and it was a huge endeavour, so I have some idea. And my car did not have the rust problems your photos show.
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09-23-2016, 03:32 PM
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09-23-2016, 04:37 PM
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wheels, maybe the trans., seats, maybe the steering wheel if a 930 type and trim all have value
body panels can be cut off & some may be good
engine core and/or other parts on it and in it...
but... that makes you into a dismantler and you may not want that job; I wouldn't
body panels can be cut off & some may be good
engine core and/or other parts on it and in it...
but... that makes you into a dismantler and you may not want that job; I wouldn't
09-23-2016, 10:25 PM
#11
Team Owner
how much was he asking, if you can recover it an 89 is a pretty special car, you would almost have to get it at sub 10K and even then it would be dicey.
a shame, an 89 is a nice machine.
a shame, an 89 is a nice machine.
09-24-2016, 02:20 AM
#12
I actually think I could get the price down under $10k... Trouble is, who could do that kind of rust repair, and would it be reliable? Any ideas?
09-25-2016, 09:19 PM
#14
Team Owner
well I would do the engine myself.. resoration design sells panels but still would be a pricey proposition. I would take it on but im kinda handy that way .
09-27-2016, 11:57 PM
#15
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I just made a deal on an '85 with worse damage than this but it does run ...an '89 could easily be very valuable once running a good machine shop can almost certainly remove a broken or rusty plug but , if your short on skills the don't touch it advise is well advised !!!