Looking to buy a 911 for the first time!
07-03-2015, 04:56 PM
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07-03-2015, 11:03 PM
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weird. I posted (or thought I did) but it didn't post. To paraphrase...
From the little that I've discovered so far, it looks like I need to spend no more than 50K for a fully restored 3.2, to a not-so-great one for about 20-25K and dump the rest in getting it fixed up.
I'm a little afraid of buying a lemon, and am thinking about buying one from a shop that specializes in 911 restorations. Any thoughts on this?
At least I have it narrowed down to what I want.
From the little that I've discovered so far, it looks like I need to spend no more than 50K for a fully restored 3.2, to a not-so-great one for about 20-25K and dump the rest in getting it fixed up.
I'm a little afraid of buying a lemon, and am thinking about buying one from a shop that specializes in 911 restorations. Any thoughts on this?
At least I have it narrowed down to what I want.
07-03-2015, 11:40 PM
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Just browsing and this caught my eye. She looks great, but have NO idea on what's under the hood..
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http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-...ting=113422126
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http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-...ting=113422126
07-03-2015, 11:53 PM
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Looks like a decent car. Has the stock 3.2 engine.
To answer the shop question...not all restoration specialists are created equal. Without knowledge of the players in the game you gain little other than a higher retail price. Often a shop will build to a client's buildsheet and desires. Really a stock, well maintained but unrestored car is best.
And you want a ppi no matter what. For that Chicago car you have eurosport there who could ppi it. Believe very little a dealer tells you about a car. Standard dealer buyer beware stuff though in collectable sports cars it is doubled.
To answer the shop question...not all restoration specialists are created equal. Without knowledge of the players in the game you gain little other than a higher retail price. Often a shop will build to a client's buildsheet and desires. Really a stock, well maintained but unrestored car is best.
And you want a ppi no matter what. For that Chicago car you have eurosport there who could ppi it. Believe very little a dealer tells you about a car. Standard dealer buyer beware stuff though in collectable sports cars it is doubled.
07-04-2015, 12:13 AM
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Private seller, P Club folks (especially if active and known), P car websites are all also good starting points. I'd still look just about everywhere/anywhere due to the buying situation.
I found mine with a P Car flipper that only deals in older Porsche's...I still got a good deal but you have to go in knowledgeable and knowing what to look for before you get a solid PPI.
I was also there to physically inspect and drive the car...then the PPI by a Porsche specialist shop with a good reputation.
If at a distance ask for someone here or at Pelican to look at it for you if nearby.....lots of guys enjoy doing that.
A professional car inspection company (not a PPI) is also a good route and that once saved me thousands (on a different make but they reported fairly and the seller was a crook/liar).
I found mine with a P Car flipper that only deals in older Porsche's...I still got a good deal but you have to go in knowledgeable and knowing what to look for before you get a solid PPI.
I was also there to physically inspect and drive the car...then the PPI by a Porsche specialist shop with a good reputation.
If at a distance ask for someone here or at Pelican to look at it for you if nearby.....lots of guys enjoy doing that.
A professional car inspection company (not a PPI) is also a good route and that once saved me thousands (on a different make but they reported fairly and the seller was a crook/liar).
07-04-2015, 12:35 AM
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Wow! Awesome.
Thanks for this, Reiver. I figure as I start to network I'm going to come across some good info/leads, etc. Should keep me safe. But yes, I think PPI from someone who knows there vintage Porsches will keep me from expensive regret.
Just seeing all the pictures on the website of these cars....mouth watering here.
I'm psyched!
Thanks for this, Reiver. I figure as I start to network I'm going to come across some good info/leads, etc. Should keep me safe. But yes, I think PPI from someone who knows there vintage Porsches will keep me from expensive regret.
Just seeing all the pictures on the website of these cars....mouth watering here.
I'm psyched!
07-04-2015, 09:27 AM
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Just browsing and this caught my eye. She looks great, but have NO idea on what's under the hood..
Thoughts?
http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-...ting=113422126
Thoughts?
http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/l-Used-...ting=113422126
07-04-2015, 10:38 AM
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Would it be jumping the gun to have this PPId by a Eurosport in Chicago? Or wait and see what else pops up. Perhaps I just need to be a little more patient...
I just started all of this a couple of days ago..
Still need to sell the Corrado..
Get the loan etc...
I just started all of this a couple of days ago..
Still need to sell the Corrado..
Get the loan etc...
07-04-2015, 11:00 AM
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Until you have cash in hand a PPI is premature. If you have to sell your Corrado, most of what you see for sale today will be gone by then. Keep watching and getting educated. And sell your other car.
07-04-2015, 05:37 PM
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http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...era-coupe.html
They come to market all the time. I try to remember that prices are up and one must move deliberately but this is not a crisis situation. Dealers want us to be crisis buyers. They make more money that way. They made a lot of white SCs and Carreras.
I lost a deal this week because the dealer was offended because he felt my offer too low. I was only $2k under ask and he declined to counter. He sold the car on EBay instead even though I came back 2 days later at his full asking price. Just another reason to deal with private parties.
They come to market all the time. I try to remember that prices are up and one must move deliberately but this is not a crisis situation. Dealers want us to be crisis buyers. They make more money that way. They made a lot of white SCs and Carreras.
I lost a deal this week because the dealer was offended because he felt my offer too low. I was only $2k under ask and he declined to counter. He sold the car on EBay instead even though I came back 2 days later at his full asking price. Just another reason to deal with private parties.