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11-09-2014, 01:34 PM
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11-09-2014, 01:36 PM
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Being the aircooled section It is the wrong forum to post.
However I will say that the 997.1 GT3 will be better long term value vs. a 996 GT3 for a multitude of reasons.
The 996 GT3 right now is somewhat of a bargin however and is a good buy.
The 996GT3 will never surpass 997GT3 values.
However I will say that the 997.1 GT3 will be better long term value vs. a 996 GT3 for a multitude of reasons.
The 996 GT3 right now is somewhat of a bargin however and is a good buy.
The 996GT3 will never surpass 997GT3 values.
11-10-2014, 12:29 AM
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996 GT3 had finished its depreciation.... 997GT3 has some to go....
For a drivers car the 996 is the way to go. However the 997 car has better interior, better exterior styling but not quite the same experience.
If you aren't tracking the car, very little to chose between them.
For a drivers car the 996 is the way to go. However the 997 car has better interior, better exterior styling but not quite the same experience.
If you aren't tracking the car, very little to chose between them.
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11-10-2014, 02:56 AM
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11-10-2014, 02:58 AM
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Being the aircooled section It is the wrong forum to post.
However I will say that the 997.1 GT3 will be better long term value vs. a 996 GT3 for a multitude of reasons.
The 996 GT3 right now is somewhat of a bargin however and is a good buy.
The 996GT3 will never surpass 997GT3 values.
However I will say that the 997.1 GT3 will be better long term value vs. a 996 GT3 for a multitude of reasons.
The 996 GT3 right now is somewhat of a bargin however and is a good buy.
The 996GT3 will never surpass 997GT3 values.
not surpassing RS, yes
but i am pretty certain it will surpass 997.1GT narrow body.
plus 2/3 of the 996g will be crashed out. it's a bitch to drive compared to 7.1
11-10-2014, 03:49 AM
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Yadda yadda yadda all over these forums about price. Here's the Cliff's Notes version of what I've heard, seen, and lived through:
996.2 Pros: Raw, track-focused, first NA water-cooled Mezger sold in USA.
996.2 Cons: Not fun on the street, love-or-hate 996 styling, supposedly a bitch to drive.
997.1 Pros: Liveable, prettier than 996 by most accounts, nice balance of power and displacement (feels "sweeter" than 3.8).
997.1 Cons: Not as track-focused as 996.2, not as raw as 997.1RS, lacks "dat ***," LWFW, other bespoke bits in RS
997.1RS Pros: Raw like 996.2 but more competent
997.1RS Cons: You don't like Halloween or St. Patrick's, can't afford a .2RS
997.2 Pros: More must be better amirite, less scrub on corner entry
997.2 Cons: Muted compared to forebears, centerlocks
997.2RS Pros: Best car you can buy for this kind of money, period
997.2RS Cons: MSRP or higher used, not a 4.0
997.2RS4.0 Pros: Last of its kind, Chris Harris bought one and ate his lunch on the spoiler so it must be good
997.2RS4.0 Cons: WTF pricing, Not a CGT
Overall cons:
Coolant pipes/fittings (including mine, upgraded pipes and pin job at dealer underway)
LSD might be weak for track rats
$200+ for $20 worth of plastic upfront every time you scrape a curb
Last but not least: speculation driving price bubble
These will stabilize and appreciate like 964 RSes have, and age, mileage, and kit will be the differentiating factors. Similar condition/options/history will see pricing as follows: 996.2<997.1<997.2<=997.1RS<997.2RS. Connoisseurs will pay more for the flavor they prefer (to Mooty's point, which is the exception that proves this rule).
Buy what you can afford when you can afford it and enjoy it.
996.2 Pros: Raw, track-focused, first NA water-cooled Mezger sold in USA.
996.2 Cons: Not fun on the street, love-or-hate 996 styling, supposedly a bitch to drive.
997.1 Pros: Liveable, prettier than 996 by most accounts, nice balance of power and displacement (feels "sweeter" than 3.8).
997.1 Cons: Not as track-focused as 996.2, not as raw as 997.1RS, lacks "dat ***," LWFW, other bespoke bits in RS
997.1RS Pros: Raw like 996.2 but more competent
997.1RS Cons: You don't like Halloween or St. Patrick's, can't afford a .2RS
997.2 Pros: More must be better amirite, less scrub on corner entry
997.2 Cons: Muted compared to forebears, centerlocks
997.2RS Pros: Best car you can buy for this kind of money, period
997.2RS Cons: MSRP or higher used, not a 4.0
997.2RS4.0 Pros: Last of its kind, Chris Harris bought one and ate his lunch on the spoiler so it must be good
997.2RS4.0 Cons: WTF pricing, Not a CGT
Overall cons:
Coolant pipes/fittings (including mine, upgraded pipes and pin job at dealer underway)
LSD might be weak for track rats
$200+ for $20 worth of plastic upfront every time you scrape a curb
Last but not least: speculation driving price bubble
These will stabilize and appreciate like 964 RSes have, and age, mileage, and kit will be the differentiating factors. Similar condition/options/history will see pricing as follows: 996.2<997.1<997.2<=997.1RS<997.2RS. Connoisseurs will pay more for the flavor they prefer (to Mooty's point, which is the exception that proves this rule).
Buy what you can afford when you can afford it and enjoy it.
11-10-2014, 06:35 PM
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What Mooty says.
6-3's are a bitch to drive even when set up. With my schedule I can't get enough track days to soften the learning curve and I sold it. In that car when **** happens it happens quickly. I looped my 6-3 more than all my others combined, twice!
For "date night" I'd prefer the 3.8 anyway. Just me.
6-3's are a bitch to drive even when set up. With my schedule I can't get enough track days to soften the learning curve and I sold it. In that car when **** happens it happens quickly. I looped my 6-3 more than all my others combined, twice!
For "date night" I'd prefer the 3.8 anyway. Just me.
11-12-2014, 10:55 PM
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I will enjoy seeing what becomes of the 996GT3 and 997GT3.....
Right now I give the 997 the nod because it is a great all-rounder. Sunroof, curvey body, compliant road manners, decent on track and of course round headlights...car should age well.
The 996GT3 might be appealing to the simple purist but the lack of curves on the body and fried egg headlights will forever scar the car. It currently resembles $15k used basic carreras too much...
It could however be the water cooled version of the 964 and make a strong comeback trumping the 997..... Id take one at $50k and hold it but prices are holding strong where they currently sit..
11-13-2014, 10:58 AM
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Hendrick Porsche has a 2004 GT3 with less than 25k miles on their website for around $55k. When I called them yesterday, somebody had already put a deposit on it.
11-13-2014, 08:16 PM
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Mezger-engined cars are all high-demand now and climbing. Bargains for the really good ones have all but evaporated due to supply & demand.
996 GT-3's are tamed by installing all of the ROW RS suspension pieces, however this is not inexpensive to do. Still,...its a game changer for those with the budget to do this while supplies last.
Wish I had the cheese to do it since I love "Q-ship" cars.
996 GT-3's are tamed by installing all of the ROW RS suspension pieces, however this is not inexpensive to do. Still,...its a game changer for those with the budget to do this while supplies last.
Wish I had the cheese to do it since I love "Q-ship" cars.
