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Old 09-09-2014, 05:27 PM
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Here's a strange one.
Car feels like it is missing when it's damp out or when raining.
It wasn't much of a problem until last week when I was at Mosport and went to run in the rain. Felt like I was running on 2 cylinders.
When I open the trunk the motor is dry!
Let it sit and it really pours. No way it will start and I have a 1 hr ride home.
Flat bed it home, and it fires up the next morning and off to the track I go again. Car runs great all day.
New wires last year.
So I try using a misting bottle and soak different parts of the engine and think I hear a popping sound from the distributor, but motor runs great.
Let it sit and do it again, but no popping sound now.
It almost feels like a sensor that is changing fuel/air ratio when it senses dampness.
What are your thoughts fellow oil pumpers?
Old 09-09-2014, 06:07 PM
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When I first got my car it ran horribly after washing in. Turned out to be water getting into the distributor. Cap was likely 19 years old. Could that be your issue?
Old 09-09-2014, 07:30 PM
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I'd replace the distributor cap. Likely getting moisture inside when its humid out.
Old 09-09-2014, 08:15 PM
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If you have no records or don't remember anything about your maintenance regimen, I'd replace the distributor cap & rotor, right away. If your wires are less than a year old and they are good ones, you should be OK. Time to replace the plugs too, if they are as old as the cap & rotor.
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Originally Posted by Steve Weiner-Rennsport Systems
If you have no records or don't remember anything about your maintenance regimen, I'd replace the distributor cap & rotor, right away. If your wires are less than a year old and they are good ones, you should be OK. Time to replace the plugs too, if they are as old as the cap & rotor.
I guess I should have mentioned that I replaced the cap, rotor and plugs as well. Yes all OEM parts.

What really puzzles me is why it doesn't do it when I sprayed water on it.
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i would look closely at the 3 sensors ..CHT , and the two on the bell housing , cant remember there names ( crank and reference maybe ? ) but i think Doug has replaced them. You might not get to them with a spray bottle.
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i would look closely at the 3 sensors ..CHT , and the two on the bell housing , cant remember there names ( crank and reference maybe ? ) but i think Doug has replaced them. You might not get to them with a spray bottle.
Do you mean the 3 plugs just to the right of the fuel filter? One goes to the oxygen sensor?

Who is Doug? lol Or do you mean Shirley?
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Ya, who is Doug? ...and do we really know what time it is?

What Clive is saying is that is may be your Crank Position Sensor on the fly wheel...so yes, the ones next to the fuel filter that lead down through the engine surround. The wire insulation loves to get brittle and crack with the heat from the exhaust pipes. That problem may only manifest with rain water spraying around under the car. The wires end up on the driver's side of the bell housing. It is also a common problem.
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Originally Posted by amber lamps
Ya, who is Doug? ...and do we really know what time it is?

What Clive is saying is that is may be your Crank Position Sensor on the fly wheel...so yes, the ones next to the fuel filter that lead down through the engine surround. The wire insulation loves to get brittle and crack with the heat from the exhaust pipes. That problem may only manifest with rain water spraying around under the car. The wires end up on the driver's side of the bell housing. It is also a common problem.
Those plugs are accessible and that was where I started with my water test.
Soaked them big time.
Now remember when I drove in the rain at the track the motor was completely dry before I went out and it was acting up as soon as I started it.
The top was still dry when I came in as well.
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The engine is hot and dissipates moisture almost immediately. It is underneath the engine where the wires crack and where water sprays up when driving. I have no doubt that the engine is dry inside the engine compartment.
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i would say replace the sensors and treat it as a maintanance item. if it doesnt fix it oh well you are done for 10 years.
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Yes does sound electrical, either cap or one of many sensors.



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