Bill Verburg

If that blue car is yours the fronts are definitely 7ET23.3x16, the rears could be 8ET10.6 or 9ET15 x16, hard to tell w/o a closer look.

bakerphoto

Bill, I have an 86 ROW Cab that has the US ECU. Would there be any reason to switch to a ROW box or would a chip in the US box accomplish the same? Thanks for all the great advice, it's been a great help. I had no idea different spark plugs were spec'd for ROW but definitely makes sense. And to the OP, great thread.

Bill Verburg

I don't know, I never messed w/ 3.2 Carreras
On my '95 993 I can run either a US nvram motor or a RoW vram motor off the same DME and harness(any combo of US DME or RoW DME and US '95 or RoW '97 harness will do), I just need to swap chips and make 2 wire changes because of the vram vs nvram intakes.

Drisump

I don't know for sure but Steve Wong offers chips for ROW cars which differ from the chip offered for the US spec cars. The question is whether the DME itself has fundamental differences to allow it to be used with the higher compression motor. Perhaps Steve Wong would be the guy to ask.

Amber Gramps

http://members.rennlist.com/messinwi...DMEHacking.htm

Old Guy

My Euro '85 has been registered in CA since 1985. I'm the 3rd owner. Car is about to turn 68,000 miles. No problems with tag renewals ever, that I'm aware of (spoke at length with the 2nd owner - owned car since about 1988). The door sticker conversion firm and ECU sticker installer swap/modifier (?) firms are both long out of business. The car has a history of passing smog, but, this last time I had to replace the Cat, O2 sensor and have an "expert" do some adjusting inside the air box (was failing NOX at 25 mph). I also reinstalled the plastic, vented gas tank lid (they check this). It runs the USA plugs, which match cars running a Cat from what I've read (per Wingrove's "The Ultimate Owner's Guide; Porsche 911 Carrera 3.2" - excellent book, BTW...even if written for England). The smaller bumperettes remain; the frt/rear light lens were changed, at conversion I assume. Single fog light was disconnected. Center brake light was added, but has single fallen off and was removed. Mine has the 3 spoke Turbo steering wheel w/raised hub and a full (dash included) leather interior w/Sport seats (w/power height adjustment)...but presumably those could be ordered on USA cars. Whls are 16s, only 6 and 7 inches; polished aluminum (not chrome) w/red painting done by the factory. (I replaced the missing lock cover seen below.) I see the trans oil cooler; have no idea what power the engine puts out. Runs great. Car has front and rear sway (is that the correct term?) bars. Oh, scary cutting out problem when I first got it; replacing the cylinder head temp sensor fixed that problem. To summarize, at a glance only the fog light and smaller rear bumper pads give the car away as ROW (per PCNA, build spec was for Germany).

Old Guy

Oops...forgot to mention that the other visual give-away are the side light blinkers on each front fender.

Matt Lane

Hi Bill, while blue, I don't think this is the one you are referring to. My car below - seem to be narrow 16's? But we'll see.

Cheers!

Matt

Bill Verburg

No, that's the pic I was referring to

the fronts are 7x16 for sure, the rear either 8 or 9 x16

Matt Lane

Good news - thanks Bill.

You know you are in expert company when Bill can correctly eyeball the specs of my new car, and already knows more about it than I do!

It won't be home until next spring, so photo's will have to do for now. It's going to be a fun project.

Cheers

Matt

scarceller

DMEs are basically the same but the ROW DME is missing the circuitry for the O2 sensor but other than that they are the same. But the chips are slightly different since the Euro 3.2 has higher compression it has slightly different ignition timing.

You can easily use the USA DME in the ROW 3.2L but you may want to get a ROW chip for the DME.

SARGEPUG

The torsion bars were at a different ride height and headlight assembly different as well. Both are shown in my sig pic below.

Bill Verburg

There are several RoW 3.2 Carrera engines that were available
930/20 and /26 have 10.3 cr and no cat, use 98octane(US 93) leaded, /26 has a SAI pump /20 does not
930/25 for Aus, US, J and FRG(M298) have 9.5 cr and a cat w/ O sensor uses unleaded

Bill Verburg

Tha't not true the same height and alignment was spcified for all markets
height front 108+/-5mm
height rear 16+/-5mm

SARGEPUG

I beg to differ on that one! I've been a part of many euro spec conversations and the ride height always seems to be a Euro difference. Are you sure you are not talking 964 and later??