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02-10-2016, 12:13 AM
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Okay. I guess that I should replace the bushings as well while I am there... 
I confirmed that the shocks are all Sports... not HD... I wonder what the combination of 21F/28R Torsion Bars with Sports shocks instead of HD would do to the car handling... The struts inserts and rear shocks are fairly new... so makes no sense to change them at this time... And forget about sending them to get them re-valved... the cost is the same, or more, than just buying the HD units
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I confirmed that the shocks are all Sports... not HD... I wonder what the combination of 21F/28R Torsion Bars with Sports shocks instead of HD would do to the car handling... The struts inserts and rear shocks are fairly new... so makes no sense to change them at this time... And forget about sending them to get them re-valved... the cost is the same, or more, than just buying the HD units
Comments?What else is on your list? Any interest in a set (20) of open steel lug nuts from SMC that only have a couple thousand miles on them? Got some cool factory spacer too that screw onto the rear rotors like the rotors screw onto the hubs.
02-10-2016, 12:43 AM
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May be your lucky day. I've got a set of HD's with your name on them that may as well be new. BUT, don't you want Sports with bars that heavy?
What else is on your list? Any interest in a set (20) of open steel lug nuts from SMC that only have a couple thousand miles on them? Got some cool factory spacer too that screw onto the rear rotors like the rotors screw onto the hubs.
What else is on your list? Any interest in a set (20) of open steel lug nuts from SMC that only have a couple thousand miles on them? Got some cool factory spacer too that screw onto the rear rotors like the rotors screw onto the hubs.
Then there were these:
There's definitely a ton of opinions on this, for a street car I wouldn't worry about it to death. Pick one and move on. I doubt there's very many people here that have run both set ups.
I have not come across many (any?) threads where someone was disappointed in heir shock choice, so keep that in mind.
I have not come across many (any?) threads where someone was disappointed in heir shock choice, so keep that in mind.
What do you think?
02-10-2016, 01:23 AM
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I think I was disappointed in the HD's on my car when it was relatively stock everywhere else.
When I went to Sports, I first took them to Bilstien in Poway and had them rebuilt so I don't have an honest comparison. All I know is that now with new rods, seals, rubber, oil, valves, and coilovers they are killer stiff in comparison....Just the way I like them.
If you are going to run the car super low you can always leave out the bumpstops.
When I went to Sports, I first took them to Bilstien in Poway and had them rebuilt so I don't have an honest comparison. All I know is that now with new rods, seals, rubber, oil, valves, and coilovers they are killer stiff in comparison....Just the way I like them.
If you are going to run the car super low you can always leave out the bumpstops.
02-10-2016, 08:12 AM
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I think I was disappointed in the HD's on my car when it was relatively stock everywhere else.
When I went to Sports, I first took them to Bilstien in Poway and had them rebuilt so I don't have an honest comparison. All I know is that now with new rods, seals, rubber, oil, valves, and coilovers they are killer stiff in comparison....Just the way I like them.
If you are going to run the car super low you can always leave out the bumpstops.
When I went to Sports, I first took them to Bilstien in Poway and had them rebuilt so I don't have an honest comparison. All I know is that now with new rods, seals, rubber, oil, valves, and coilovers they are killer stiff in comparison....Just the way I like them.
If you are going to run the car super low you can always leave out the bumpstops.
02-10-2016, 02:17 PM
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An explanation that I can understand!!!
Ok:
You've nearly doubled the spring rates from the factory settings. The rear is now slightly stiffer in relation to the front, which, everything else equal, should make the car under-steer a little less.
You'll be fine. Car will handle great. Shocks will likely be "close enough." Don't lower it too much. Don't worry so much. Drive and enjoy.
You've nearly doubled the spring rates from the factory settings. The rear is now slightly stiffer in relation to the front, which, everything else equal, should make the car under-steer a little less.
You'll be fine. Car will handle great. Shocks will likely be "close enough." Don't lower it too much. Don't worry so much. Drive and enjoy.
02-10-2016, 05:36 PM
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Note to self... must keep a list of the part number and where it is going... Ordered a few bolts and forgot to document this and now I can't figure out where those go... back to the PET diagrams...
N-014-086-12 - Taping screw for the hood air vent grill frame
900-075-341-02 - Combination screw M6x25 for brake line 'T'
914-355-691-00 - Brake hose protectors (rubber sleeves that go around hard brake lines in secured brackets)
911-347-029-01 Needle roller bearing for steering rack
N-014-086-12 SCREW 3.5X13
900-910-046-02 (superseded by 999-084-445-01) - Nut M12x1.5 for the rear sway bar
900-082-035-02 Bolt M12x60 for rear sway bar
N-010-156-3 M12x70 for rear sway bar mount to chassis
N-010-239-11 M8x18 (superseded by N-010-239-30) bolt for rubber bushing for rear sway bar clamp
900-075-043-02 Hexagon bolt M10x30 for spring plate covers (8)
N-014-086-12 - Taping screw for the hood air vent grill frame
900-075-341-02 - Combination screw M6x25 for brake line 'T'
914-355-691-00 - Brake hose protectors (rubber sleeves that go around hard brake lines in secured brackets)
911-347-029-01 Needle roller bearing for steering rack
N-014-086-12 SCREW 3.5X13
900-910-046-02 (superseded by 999-084-445-01) - Nut M12x1.5 for the rear sway bar
900-082-035-02 Bolt M12x60 for rear sway bar
N-010-156-3 M12x70 for rear sway bar mount to chassis
N-010-239-11 M8x18 (superseded by N-010-239-30) bolt for rubber bushing for rear sway bar clamp
900-075-043-02 Hexagon bolt M10x30 for spring plate covers (8)
02-10-2016, 11:40 PM
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I hate it when I find something on the floor and can't figure out where it came from... and I can't blame my father-in-law... he is out visiting family (he would sometimes, just for the heck of it, put a bolt next to where I am working just to watch me try to figure out where it goes or why is left after the job is done)...
02-10-2016, 11:49 PM
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Well... got longer and stronger bolts...
And gave it a try again (yesterday night I could not remove the bearing races...)
Look at that!
Let's use the puller now...
It is coming out!!
Used a spacer from the bike for the rest of the travel... it was the perfect diameter
Done!
And gave it a try again (yesterday night I could not remove the bearing races...)
Look at that!
Let's use the puller now...
It is coming out!!
Used a spacer from the bike for the rest of the travel... it was the perfect diameter
Done!
02-11-2016, 09:54 AM
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May be your lucky day. I've got a set of HD's with your name on them that may as well be new. BUT, don't you want Sports with bars that heavy?
What else is on your list? Any interest in a set (20) of open steel lug nuts from SMC that only have a couple thousand miles on them? Got some cool factory spacer too that screw onto the rear rotors like the rotors screw onto the hubs.
What else is on your list? Any interest in a set (20) of open steel lug nuts from SMC that only have a couple thousand miles on them? Got some cool factory spacer too that screw onto the rear rotors like the rotors screw onto the hubs.
Thank you for the offer!! If you could hold on to the HD stuff for a few months... just in case...
02-11-2016, 11:46 PM
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Rear-axle trailing arms removed.
The inner pieces and rubber inserts were easy to remove... Now I need to press these out...
Just got an email from Pelican that my order for the ER Bushings is delay because of some bolts that I added to the order....argghhh... those bolts I add just to take advantage of the order placed... and of course, I get the email at 10pm ET when they are gone and I can't tell them to take them out and ship... another day lost....
The inner pieces and rubber inserts were easy to remove... Now I need to press these out...
Just got an email from Pelican that my order for the ER Bushings is delay because of some bolts that I added to the order....argghhh... those bolts I add just to take advantage of the order placed... and of course, I get the email at 10pm ET when they are gone and I can't tell them to take them out and ship... another day lost....
02-11-2016, 11:54 PM
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The other task that I was going to do was to replace the master cylinder for a new 930 unit that came with the car... then I saw these videos and decided that this was a weekend task and not something I wanted to do during the week nights...
02-12-2016, 01:30 AM
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The next time you have to pull the races off your rear hubs, you know, in 35 years or so, use a 4" grinder to make a diagonal notch for a pointed cold chissle and smack it with a 3# BFH. Works like a charm. Cracks and expands enough to fall right off.
Edit: The videos make that look much harder than it really is. I swapped in my 930 M/C in a couple hours. Of course I don't have a fresh air box or that spaghetti ducting to deal with. Just don't sweat it.
Edit: The videos make that look much harder than it really is. I swapped in my 930 M/C in a couple hours. Of course I don't have a fresh air box or that spaghetti ducting to deal with. Just don't sweat it.
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02-12-2016, 10:44 AM
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The next time you have to pull the races off your rear hubs, you know, in 35 years or so, use a 4" grinder to make a diagonal notch for a pointed cold chissle and smack it with a 3# BFH. Works like a charm. Cracks and expands enough to fall right off.
Edit: The videos make that look much harder than it really is. I swapped in my 930 M/C in a couple hours. Of course I don't have a fresh air box or that spaghetti ducting to deal with. Just don't sweat it.
Edit: The videos make that look much harder than it really is. I swapped in my 930 M/C in a couple hours. Of course I don't have a fresh air box or that spaghetti ducting to deal with. Just don't sweat it.
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But it requires going inside the car, undoing the brake pedal, etc. With the car on the lift, opening the doors to do all that is not as easy... not with my non-slender figure at least, lol... so I was going to wait until the suspension was done, install the wheels back and roll it out for that...
Thinking about it some more... maybe a task for Daniel to help me with... he can do the stuff inside the car while I work in the front...
02-12-2016, 01:06 PM
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Elephant racing has a cool tool for removing the split bushings - Split Bushing Removal Tool but I don't feel like spending that kind of money (US$120.00)...
I can see that tool being great for somebody doing this often... I will go the chisel and BFH route...
I can see that tool being great for somebody doing this often... I will go the chisel and BFH route...
02-12-2016, 07:40 PM
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Jaime,
I just wanted to say how glued I am to this build thread (and as a result, your 912 build). My dad and I just rescued a '74 with a 3.2 from a guy's backyard where it sat for at least 5 yrs. We have begun the teardown and have been discussing colors. Original is Ice Green Metallic - yuk!, or do we go a period correct Porsche blue. I did a search for Aquamarine (Dad's favorite 356 color) and came across your thread. Not only is your car beautiful, but the thread will provide priceless to us as we restore the car to what we think it should be. I've already purchased TRE bumpers and a center filler kit! Aquamarine is definitely on the list (as is Arrow, Ossi, etc). Keep up the great work!
Greg
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'74 911 3.2 _____blau
'83 911 SC Slate Blue (dad's)
'56 IM Speedster Stone Gray (dad's)
I just wanted to say how glued I am to this build thread (and as a result, your 912 build). My dad and I just rescued a '74 with a 3.2 from a guy's backyard where it sat for at least 5 yrs. We have begun the teardown and have been discussing colors. Original is Ice Green Metallic - yuk!, or do we go a period correct Porsche blue. I did a search for Aquamarine (Dad's favorite 356 color) and came across your thread. Not only is your car beautiful, but the thread will provide priceless to us as we restore the car to what we think it should be. I've already purchased TRE bumpers and a center filler kit! Aquamarine is definitely on the list (as is Arrow, Ossi, etc). Keep up the great work!
Greg
'76 BMW 2002 Pastellblau
'74 911 3.2 _____blau
'83 911 SC Slate Blue (dad's)
'56 IM Speedster Stone Gray (dad's)