Porsche 911 wide body
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Porsche 911 wide body
Hi
I know that a Porsche wide body, the body is obviously wider. How wide is it compared to a regular 911? What other differences are there? Body, engine, etc.
Thanks
Edward
I know that a Porsche wide body, the body is obviously wider. How wide is it compared to a regular 911? What other differences are there? Body, engine, etc.
Thanks
Edward
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In the mid 80's Porsche offered the Turbo Look Carrera in I believe 1985-1989, before the 964 chassis change. Im not sure of the exact measurement of the front and rear fender flares but the WideBody normally aspirated Carrera differed in not only looks but parts also. The Turbo Look Option (designated by a letter and a 2 digit number) used the same 3.2 liter NA engine/915 gearbox, then G50 gearbox with hydraulic clutch in late 87, but shared much of the chassis with the 930 turbo. The main difference between the standard Carrera and the Turbo Look include: the front tie rod ends from the 930, Fender flares, 8/10's Fuchs wheels, Turbo 917 style brake calipers with cross drilled rotors, Larger master cylinder, higher pick up points for the rear trailing arms, 930 trailing (banana arms), Larger diameter torsion bars and sway bars, Bilstein sport shocks, and the larger Turbo Tail.
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The term "wide body" comes from the large 9" and 11" fender flares found on the 930 Turbos of the '70's & 80's. Over the years, many "narrow body" 911s have been converted to "look" like factory 930 Turbos.
In model year 1973 Porsche offered the first RSR internally known as Manufacturing Option 491. Interestingly, the first 930 Turbos were built by stuffing a 3.0 turbo engine and stronger 4-speed gearbox into a M491 optioned 911 Carrera and named it "Turbo Carrera".
In 1984 the factory officially began offering a 911 "Turbo-Look" (mainly for the North American market) to fill the void created by the absence of 911 Turbos due to elevated Federal emissions regulations. Option M491 essentially created a "Turbo Delete" 930 with an initial price tag in the neighborhood of $10,000 above the cost of a new Carrera 3.2! According to PCNA records, fewer than 1200 factory Turbo-Look Carreras were imported into North America between the years of 1984-1989. Doing the math, less than four cars per state per year were delivered which makes these cars pretty rare... For more information on these collectable and very desirable cars, visit and join other enthusiasts:
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In model year 1973 Porsche offered the first RSR internally known as Manufacturing Option 491. Interestingly, the first 930 Turbos were built by stuffing a 3.0 turbo engine and stronger 4-speed gearbox into a M491 optioned 911 Carrera and named it "Turbo Carrera".
In 1984 the factory officially began offering a 911 "Turbo-Look" (mainly for the North American market) to fill the void created by the absence of 911 Turbos due to elevated Federal emissions regulations. Option M491 essentially created a "Turbo Delete" 930 with an initial price tag in the neighborhood of $10,000 above the cost of a new Carrera 3.2! According to PCNA records, fewer than 1200 factory Turbo-Look Carreras were imported into North America between the years of 1984-1989. Doing the math, less than four cars per state per year were delivered which makes these cars pretty rare... For more information on these collectable and very desirable cars, visit and join other enthusiasts:
Factory Turbo-Look/ M491 Gruppe
Good gruppe, good posts, M491 Carreras and current "for sale" sightings!
Last edited by Paul491 Cadrobbi; 03-24-2004 at 08:45 PM.
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Yeah, the 'body,' if you were to measure the space from one door handle to the other, didn't change from 1964-1989 (and possibly 1994). The fender flares did.
It started with the Kremer Brothers, I think, and the Porsche factory picked it up from there. The Carrera RS got wider rear flares as a way to legitimize their use in racing, and the RSR and Turbo's kept the 'fattening' going.
Gratuitous pictures:
It started with the Kremer Brothers, I think, and the Porsche factory picked it up from there. The Carrera RS got wider rear flares as a way to legitimize their use in racing, and the RSR and Turbo's kept the 'fattening' going.
Gratuitous pictures:
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Originally posted by JackOlsen
The original widebodies were all ducks!
If you've got a fast internet connection, check out this 10-meg clip.
The original widebodies were all ducks!
If you've got a fast internet connection, check out this 10-meg clip.
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You are not alone in wanting to know more about this car....and about Jack. Here is a look behind the curtain:
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This is Jack sitting in my new seats at Lufgenkult II
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This is Jack sitting in my new seats at Lufgenkult II