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08-16-2006, 11:54 AM
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Question for the cardex experts
Hello Guys 
Here you see a close up from my cardex. You are looking at 3 dealerships.
1 ???????????????
2 AFN, England
3 Hahn, Stgt (= stuttgart)
Does anyone have a clue what the first name is???
Here you see a close up from my cardex. You are looking at 3 dealerships.
1 ???????????????
2 AFN, England
3 Hahn, Stgt (= stuttgart)
Does anyone have a clue what the first name is???
08-23-2006, 01:16 PM
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I can't help you with your question, but it does raise another from us US types. You probably know that we cannot get the Cardex from Porsche, Stuttgart anymore. We are forced to apply for a Certificate of Authenticity (COA) from the Porsche Club of America. How do people from other countries other than the US and Canada get a new Cardex? Anyone know?
08-23-2006, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Jerry Garwick
I can't help you with your question, but it does raise another from us US types. You probably know that we cannot get the Cardex from Porsche, Stuttgart anymore. We are forced to apply for a Certificate of Authenticity (COA) from the Porsche Club of America. How do people from other countries other than the US and Canada get a new Cardex? Anyone know?
That's not where we get ours from. We get ours from Porsche Cars North Amerca (PNCA) and always have, even in the "old days" when you really got a copy of the Cardex instead of the "new and improved" CoA.
Now days you have to pay something like $110.00, and half of the time the CoA is wrong. We have a friend who just got his CoA from PCNA. It's for a 1970 911T. The CoA said it was a Carrera. There was no Carrera in 1970. You'd THINK they'd know that at Porsche...... Our '55 Speedster came throught with: Color: No Data Recorded, Interior: No Data Recorded, Engine Number: No Data Recorded. Seems to me that applying for that particulr cardex was a waste of our money.
It would be interesting to know where folks from other countries get theirs from.
JoAnne
08-23-2006, 02:01 PM
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This subject was wrung out on the 356talk site and I got bored and lost the thread. I don't know if the answer every was posted. That site is "SO" difficult to follow.
08-23-2006, 02:23 PM
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Man oh man Jerry, ain't that the truth. On 356talk sometimes you get the answers before the question even posts!!! LOL
I checked on pca.org. to see if you can get a CoA from them. You can't. What they have is copy of the Application for a CoA from Porsche Cars North America. You have to print a copy it and then mail it in yourself to PCNA. Oh and Pleeeeeze, don't forget to include the payment They need the $$$$$$ 
JoAnne
I checked on pca.org. to see if you can get a CoA from them. You can't. What they have is copy of the Application for a CoA from Porsche Cars North America. You have to print a copy it and then mail it in yourself to PCNA. Oh and Pleeeeeze, don't forget to include the payment
They need the $$$$$$ JoAnne
08-23-2006, 02:58 PM
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I'm in the initial restoration of a '55 Speedster and have no info on the original colors, etc. Do I have any other option than paying the $110 for the COA and hoping for the best?
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08-23-2006, 03:55 PM
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Jerry,
From Meredith's "Original Porsche 356" on the '55 Speedster...
ext int
white blk or red
blue cream or tan
signal red cream or tan
fire red blk
Heinrich's book on Speedsters is a very good one...
http://speedster50thanniversary.com/540book.html
you must be a Registry member?
http://www.356registry.org/
From Meredith's "Original Porsche 356" on the '55 Speedster...
ext int
white blk or red
blue cream or tan
signal red cream or tan
fire red blk
Heinrich's book on Speedsters is a very good one...
http://speedster50thanniversary.com/540book.html
you must be a Registry member?
http://www.356registry.org/
08-23-2006, 05:54 PM
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Jerry, you're SOL unfortunately. Hope you have a lot of time too since mine took about 3 months to appear. My CoA also is missing any options the car may have had, though it did have the exterior/interior colors and the engine number. Mine also didn't have the transmission number.
08-23-2006, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Jerry Garwick
I have sent off a question to elevenparts.com just for yuks.
It would be cool if you could get a copy of the original kardex from them.
I have a really hard time believing that some German Engineer in 1955 didn't take the time to record the Engine number and/or the Colors of our (ex) '55 Speedster. Why don't they just send us a copy of the actual Kardex instead of a stupid Certificate of Authenticity that is "Suitable for framing". I don't want to frame it. Just send me a freaking copy!!!
Let us know if it work and you get something through elevenparts.com.
JoAnne
PS: Vvoister....... As you can see, we have been of no help to you. I am very sorry.
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08-23-2006, 06:59 PM
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I have some indications that my '55 was originally Anthricate Metallic rather than a standard speedster color. Hece my interest in getting the corrent info. I'll see what happens from our Swiss friends.
08-23-2006, 07:34 PM
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Jerry,
Anything is possible, esp w/ old Porsches a half-century ago...
however, to remind you of what you may already know...
the Speedster was conceptualized by Max Hoffman for the US dealer network. the idea was to get a snazzy, competition-worthy, low-price, volume-built 356 into the market here. so, there wasn't much in the way of special ordering or options (exc for dealer-installed), particularly in the first years. therefore, a special-ordered factory paint job on a early Speedster would be highly unlikely.
anyway, the closest color to anthracite from the period is #5403, graphite metallic. Heinrich's book has every Speedster made listed by VIN # & color. a friend has a copy, if you want, provide me the VIN & I'll check for you (pm if you don't want to divulge it publicly). the same data may be available via elevenparts... for expertise on 356 paint history, types & color-matching, John Wilhoit is the man.
Anything is possible, esp w/ old Porsches a half-century ago...
however, to remind you of what you may already know...
the Speedster was conceptualized by Max Hoffman for the US dealer network. the idea was to get a snazzy, competition-worthy, low-price, volume-built 356 into the market here. so, there wasn't much in the way of special ordering or options (exc for dealer-installed), particularly in the first years. therefore, a special-ordered factory paint job on a early Speedster would be highly unlikely.
anyway, the closest color to anthracite from the period is #5403, graphite metallic. Heinrich's book has every Speedster made listed by VIN # & color. a friend has a copy, if you want, provide me the VIN & I'll check for you (pm if you don't want to divulge it publicly). the same data may be available via elevenparts... for expertise on 356 paint history, types & color-matching, John Wilhoit is the man.